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Join Date: 12/1/2007 14:57:15

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12/10/2007 03:27:06
Is there a way to keep the New Zune Firmware / Software from automatically deleting Files
I had a 30 gig with new software and went to load some stuff but since I didnt have the stuff from my zune still on my computer it deleted everything some of those were things I cant get back easily. It also did the same thing when I loaded some videos onto new zune deleted videos and the next day added more... is there anyway to turn this function off Cause I want to be in full control of what gets deleted from my zune.
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Join Date: 11/23/2007 04:34:02

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12/10/2007 03:57:56
re: Is there a way to keep the New Zune Firmware / Software from automatically deleting Files
 Tardus804 wrote:
I had a 30 gig with new software and went to load some stuff but since I didnt have the stuff from my zune still on my computer it deleted everything some of those were things I cant get back easily. It also did the same thing when I loaded some videos onto new zune deleted videos and the next day added more... is there anyway to turn this function off Cause I want to be in full control of what gets deleted from my zune.


I also want a fix for this to keep my music on my zune after deleting it from my pc.
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Join Date: 12/1/2007 14:57:15

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12/10/2007 04:13:12
re: Is there a way to keep the New Zune Firmware / Software from automatically deleting Files
I dont see why they did this though the previous software didnt have that problem. Was this intentional if so why and if not when can we expect a patch I wonder.
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Join Date: 11/19/2007 13:17:58

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12/10/2007 04:30:57
re: Is there a way to keep the New Zune Firmware / Software from automatically deleting Files
It wasn't designed to be an external storage device.  But you can see this thread regarding keeping stuff on your zune but off your computer.
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khu

Join Date: 11/13/2007 18:41:25

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12/10/2007 04:41:13
re: Is there a way to keep the New Zune Firmware / Software from automatically deleting Files

You may want to try connecting as Guest.

 

 khu wrote:

What some of you may also want to try is Guest sync.  It has limited functionality but for those that want content on their Zune but not on their hard drive, it may be an option.

 

When you connect as a guest, there is no automatic sync.  If you delete from the Zune it does not affect the Collection.  If you delete from the Collection, it does not affect the Zune.  You may have have some issues with Zune Pass content or tracks purchased with points.

 

If you go to Settings --> Device in the software, you will find an option to Forget This Device.  This will remove the association between the device and the PC.  From that point on, when you connect, you will be asked if you want to make the PC the "Home" PC or do you want to connect as Guest.  Select connect as Guest.

 

As a guest, you can copy content from the PC to the device and copy content from the device to the PC.  However, none of this is done automatically.  The Guest sync is a feature that would allow one Zune user to connect to a remote computer and either deliver or pick up DRM free content.  The automatic sync is disabled because it would be really poor form for a guest to have his device wiped or for his device to wipe a friends Collection simply by connecting.

 

Theoretically, you could build your collection, sync, forget the device, and then delete everything in your Collection without that delete making its way to your device.  From within the software, you can still delete content off the Zune when you need to.

 

I have a second machine and installed the Zune software to do a bit of testing.  When I plugged it in, it prompted to make the PC the Home or attach as Guest.  It also gave an option to always attach as Guest to that PC.

 

I could go to Device --> Music and see my music but album art did not show up in the software.  The collection on that computer was completely empty and plugging in the Zune did not cause it to sync.

 

Right clicking on content from the Device --> Music tab gave me the option to Delete from Zune or Copy To Collection.  Adding and deleting content from the Zune Collection in the software did not affect anything on the Zune.  It is probably the most manual method of moving content around in that you have to select everything you add or delete and changes in one place are not propogated to another.

 

As far as I can see, if you do not need to sync Wirelessly, do not mind manually syncing Podcasts, and don't have any DRM content, Guest sync may be a very good option for keeping content on the Zune but not your PC.


Microsoft Support Articles for Zune

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Join Date: 12/1/2007 14:57:15

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12/10/2007 05:46:13
re: Is there a way to keep the New Zune Firmware / Software from automatically deleting Files
I Dont see how this has anything to do with being a storage device. It shouldnt remove stuff if you have moved the items off of your computer either on disk or deleting it.
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Join Date: 11/19/2007 13:17:58

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12/10/2007 12:58:23
re: Is there a way to keep the New Zune Firmware / Software from automatically deleting Files
 Tardus804 wrote:
I Dont see how this has anything to do with being a storage device. It shouldnt remove stuff if you have moved the items off of your computer either on disk or deleting it.

So keeping songs on my Zune but not on my computer doesn't mean I'm storing files on my zune? 

Anywhoo, my point was that as designed you can't keep stuff on your zune but not in your collection.  As posted above, there are ways to get around it.
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Join Date: 1/12/2008 02:15:20

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1/15/2008 04:08:59
re: Is there a way to keep the New Zune Firmware / Software from automatically deleting Files

I'm using the Forget This Device option and it says to dissconect and re-connect the device. But when I do it gives me no option to either make my pc home or connect as guest, it just automatically  re establishes itself as my computers home. What am I doing wrong? How to I make it sign me in as only a guest?

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Join Date: 1/8/2008 18:14:08

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1/15/2008 04:44:30
re: Is there a way to keep the New Zune Firmware / Software from automatically deleting Files
 PsychtcJester wrote:

I'm using the Forget This Device option and it says to dissconect and re-connect the device. But when I do it gives me no option to either make my pc home or connect as guest, it just automatically  re establishes itself as my computers home. What am I doing wrong? How to I make it sign me in as only a guest?



I'm having the same problem.

Those who become sheep, will be eaten by the wolves.

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Join Date: 1/10/2008 03:00:46

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1/16/2008 15:19:03
re: Is there a way to keep the New Zune Firmware / Software from automatically deleting Files
I don't have the option to sign on as a guest either, am I missing something?
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Join Date: 11/13/2007 18:00:27

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1/16/2008 22:19:22
re: Is there a way to keep the New Zune Firmware / Software from automatically deleting Files
Guest as to XP computer..
not software
 
Enable the Guest User account in your computer (Control Panel > USers > Guest)

My PC hates the graphic work on the software. I had to turn it off to keep it happy.

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Join Date: 1/31/2008 10:09:16

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1/31/2008 10:59:08
re: Is there a way to keep the New Zune Firmware / Software from automatically deleting Files

I tried the procedure you mention to induce guest sync. I went to device->Sync-> and clicked Forget this Zune like you ask. However as soon as I launch Zune again it doesn't go to where you say it will ask me to make the PC the "HOME PC". It goes to a screen where it asks me to name my Zune and also asks if I want to tag the ZUNE on the same screen. If I click next it takes me to sync options and it's back to normal without ever seeing this HOME PC or GUEST login. Please help, I'm having space problems on my HDD, so I need to delete the movies off the disk without losing them on ZUNE. The guest option sounds like it would solve the problem however I can't seem to get to it.

I also tried enabling the guest user account in the conntrol panel. Doesn't help. Do I actually need to logon as guest to the computer or is it enough to just enable the account. If I need to be logon as guest to the computer in order to do this, it won't be of much help as the next time as I logon as me and launch ZUNE everything will be gone. I logon as administrator to the machine.

What am I doing wrong?

Please help, thanks

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