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6/27/2009 18:11:54
re: Can we have the 5 star rating system back, please?
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Join Date: 3/28/2009 02:21:17

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7/1/2009 04:29:07
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I like the hearts.

Its either i like it (wanna hear it more) or i don't (overplayed, tired of it, bad memories) or im neutral (too lazy to pick, or havent decided yet)

its easier than trying to decide is this 2 star worthy or  4 star worthy.

Plus the 3 heart system makes it much easier to create auto playlists. If i had some songs i liked w/ 3 hearts and some w/ 4 but i only made a playlist with 3 hearts id misss out on all that other music that i sort of liked.

Keep the stars microsoft, people fear change.

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7/1/2009 08:24:29
re: Can we have the 5 star rating system back, please?

Microsoft/Zune Team, there's a reason why this thread won't die :)

 

ne2000,

   I respect your preferences and have no desire to dictate your zune experience for you.  As for myself, I'd prefer to let unrated mean unrated as I dl a lot of stuff from mixview or friend recommendations.  To me unrated means I haven't checked it out yet and is a reminder to do so.  Of the three potential courses available (retain hearts only, revert to five stars only, or enable both at users choice), two of them would accomodate us both to some degree.

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7/1/2009 18:11:28
re: Can we have the 5 star rating system back, please?
We do a need a  5 star rating system. This is a make or break for me. If the next update does not include the rating system, I am going to have to go back to apple. I am not trying to "threat" just stating a fact.
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Join Date: 5/28/2009 21:35:45

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7/2/2009 02:42:17
re: Can we have the 5 star rating system back, please?

When I first switched over from my ipod, I loved the new rating system.  Before, 1 star meant delete from device, 3 stars meant keep on device, 5 stars were my favorite songs.  Having only three options seemed perfect at first.  Now, I would like the five star or maybe a half shaded heart.  With a Zune Pass and so much music, it's hard to keep track of what is unrated(unlistened) and unrated(just ok).

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Join Date: 10/1/2008 22:08:34

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7/3/2009 22:49:43
re: Can we have the 5 star rating system back, please?
 AlSngsCnsdrd wrote:

When I first switched over from my ipod, I loved the new rating system.  Before, 1 star meant delete from device, 3 stars meant keep on device, 5 stars were my favorite songs.  Having only three options seemed perfect at first.  Now, I would like the five star or maybe a half shaded heart.  With a Zune Pass and so much music, it's hard to keep track of what is unrated(unlistened) and unrated(just ok).

This is why you need both.  People aren't afraid of change like another user said.  If that were a true statement, then that user would be afraid of change.  It's not so much change as is that it's a dumbing down of what was not a really complex thing to begin with.  The reasoning for the hearts were to tell us that 5-stars were too vague.  If anything, it's more detail than many need. 

Even CNET.com said the new Zune HD sounded amazing but that the bad news was that you would still need to use the Zune software with it.

Auto playlists are harder on the Zune than on iTunes.  Even half-shaded hearts would give you the granularity of 5-star ratings and would be better.

I made due with the Like/No Like hearts until I found it too difficult to do what I wanted.  My playlists had to try to use all three combinaions to give me a 3, 4, or 5 star rating.  No longer could I just specify 1 star and then have it removed on the next sync while still being able to use 3 hearts.  At least with the stars on other players, my autoplaylists could be Not Recently Played in 6 months (2 stars), NRP in 3 months (3 stars), NRP in 2 months (4 stars), NRP in 1 month (5 stars).

This is what frustrates me with the Zune.  It tries to make the experience simple for most users but just irritates more advanced users who also hate that damn paper-clip character in the Office suite.  It may be nice for a little while, but it's still irritating to those of us who are better at computers than the average user.

The Zune software interface is OK, but the ability to design an auto-playlist is much better in WMP, iTunes, MM, JR Music Center, etc.

The iPod sucks in terms of sound quality (although v2 of the Classic firmware is much better than 1.0 -- still far from the Zune quality), but at least it does what I want it to do and when you complain about something, they at least try to placate you.  Look at Anamorphic video out.  They added that within a single firmware release after people kept asking for it.  Despite having to buy a special cable for the iPod, it at least did something useful.  If Zune team doesn't want to listen, perhaps your market share could dwindle even further with a few of us jumping ship.

No Plays4Sure support..... No 5-star playlists.... No automatic computation of Smart Playlists on the device....  No external Media Player support....

Subscription music was very good as was the Zune tags, but you've isolated yourself into a world that most people choose not to enter.  Using an MP3 player is supposed to be enjoyable, but unfortunately the Zune is not for me.  At least with the iPod, if I go on a business trip for a week, it keeps track of my music playtimes and updates my smart playlists until I get home.  Zune has yet to be able to do that even though the XNA would allow you to come up with some way to do it, but they don't seem to let you control the media player through it in terms of intra-track seeking.

Many deficiencies.... all we're asking is to have both types of ratings.  It's not that hard for you to do and then all of us are happy.

Lauren   


My Zune 30 is not only still having a good run, but it's now grown up into a Zune 60 running for twice as long of a run..

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7/3/2009 22:52:08
re: Can we have the 5 star rating system back, please?

 Bug 42 wrote:
We do a need a  5 star rating system. This is a make or break for me. If the next update does not include the rating system, I am going to have to go back to apple. I am not trying to "threat" just stating a fact.

When was the last upgrade?  About a year ago from what I remember.

You might be in for a big wait.  ;)  But I agree with you.   

 


My Zune 30 is not only still having a good run, but it's now grown up into a Zune 60 running for twice as long of a run..

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8/12/2009 04:54:25
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A thing you may want to try for stuff you haven't checked out yet (which sounds like you leave unrated) is an autoplaylist for things with a certain number of listens. I myself just started using playlists for songs with less than 5 listens and those with zero listens. As i listen to these playlists i then try to mark each song with the like or dislike. Works well for me, may for you...you could also combine a number of listens with unrated as well in autoplaylists. got the ideas from the guys on the zuneinsider podcast, which is a good source of info

 

 Mikekee57 wrote:

Microsoft/Zune Team, there's a reason why this thread won't die :)

 

ne2000,

   I respect your preferences and have no desire to dictate your zune experience for you.  As for myself, I'd prefer to let unrated mean unrated as I dl a lot of stuff from mixview or friend recommendations.  To me unrated means I haven't checked it out yet and is a reminder to do so.  Of the three potential courses available (retain hearts only, revert to five stars only, or enable both at users choice), two of them would accomodate us both to some degree.

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Join Date: 8/12/2009 16:58:02

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8/12/2009 17:09:31
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Crappy ass rating system currently -  1st Zune - love the look and feel - software needs work / options / customizability -  I'd say add a feature to choose between which rating system you prefer. (5 star rating system on / off etc.)  

I think I might have to downgrade to firmware 2.5 and software 2.5 so I can use media monkey or another software program possibly with a 5 start rating system.


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8/13/2009 08:58:32
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 In my mind you either like a song or dont, What does 4 stars even mean...... And for me I prefer having full albums so even if theres a song i really hate im gonna keep it in there because I need to have a complete collection..... Im actually really happy MS chaged it cause it makes sense.... Broken Heart means you dont like it, Heart means you really like it, and No heart simply means ur indifferent about it.... think about the Heart as a favorites list becuase really thats what it is... For people that are used to the 5 star rating i can understand why ur angry but i dont think its something to go back to apple about cause honestly the zune device itself is still better 

Thing is that the software will be upgraded to 4.0 when the HD comes out so i wouldnt be amazed if Smart Playlists and 5 star rating showed back up... heck I kinda thought i remember them talking about that during the zune podcast but who knows 

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Join Date: 8/12/2009 02:53:37

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8/13/2009 17:01:43
re: Can we have the 5 star rating system back, please?

I would switch from my iPod Nano to Zune HD in a heartbeat if they gave me a 5 whatever rating system.

To the poster above, I guess having songs you don't like and songs you really like works for you but for some of us, there are songs we hate, songs we don't like, songs we like/wouldn't mind hearing from time to time, songs we really like, and songs we think are just amazing. To me, unrated songs are songs I haven't given my full attention to when I'm listening to them or have not listened to yet, not okay songs.

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Join Date: 8/17/2009 00:38:59

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8/17/2009 00:52:26
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5 star PLEASEEE!  and let me fav any song i want even if its not in the marketplace. 
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