zune for mac????

 AvalancheFX wrote:

 halo2redvsblue wrote:

most people that have a Mac mostly like Apple overall so i think they will stick with the ipod (big mistake)

I have a MacBookPro laptop and I decided to get a Zune 80 after messing around with several iPods... The only purpose my mac serves when I'm out with my Zune is charging it. I think the Zune would be way more popular if software were avaliable on Mac computers.

You go to a college campus, and you see that a large portion of students walk around using Macs. Those are also the same students who purchase music off iTunes. By not supporting the Mac, I think Microsoft is excluding a sizeable portion of  possible-users (although stats may say otherwise).

Those same people walking around with those Apple-made laptops only have one choice, and that's an iPod. If the Zune software was compatible with Macs, I would gladly sell my Pod on Ebay and use my Zune exclusively. I have friends what would do the same. =)

I know the chance of that happening is slim to none, but still, one can want/wish.

I agree.

Just one quick thing iTunes is on windows but Zune isn't on Mac! I have a PC but I only use it for Zune.

Amen brother!

I don't have a Mac..

But how are you supposed to win the war between Mac vs. PC if you don't allow Mac users to have a Zune?

Your forcing people NOT to buy your product. I know for a fact, a lot of people would trade in their iPod's for Zune's any day. I am sick of iPods, they have lost any or at all style, and are very overpriced.

Zune for Mac + PC the all round media player.  iTunes is annoying! Zune is easy to use, stylish, and very nice..

There is only one question.. why not? And by far, its everyone's main question.

Just pay the $80 and get bootcamp for your mac...or better yet torrent it...now you can use any microsoft software like it is a mac software no problem...the real issue is that microsoft doesn't allow people to dual boot mac and windows...but that is only a mild irritaion because there are ways around it.

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 Godofmedia wrote:

Just pay the $80 and get bootcamp for your mac...or better yet torrent it...now you can use any microsoft software like it is a mac software no problem...the real issue is that microsoft doesn't allow people to dual boot mac and windows...but that is only a mild irritaion because there are ways around it.

What? You make no sense. Microsoft won't allow people to dual boot? MS doesn't give a hoot what other systems you load parallel to Windows, and you can easily dual boot Mac OS with Windows with bootcamp which comes free on Apple computers. You can also dualboot Mac OS and Windows on a PC machine using versions and installation guides from the OSx86 wiki. I've done it with Mac OS 10.5.2.

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The Zune is a good machine, so is the iPod, so is a toaster, what's your point? Zune 120.

I have actually done research on this, I run vista, happily I might add and the one thing I want to do is get another hard drive and load Mac OSX leopard on it. Everything I have ever seen says that you can't dual boot with vista (maybe I should have made that clear) and it is a breach of contract to load Mac OSX on a window's based machine.

About bootcamp, I didn't know that it came free on mac, last I heard it was still $80 off the shelf. Vista is good over all just a few kinks that needed ironed out...but lets not get into that.

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I had Vista-unhappily, no support.  Switched to Mac leopard and will never go back. The Mac Pro came with Boot camp installed but VMware is a a software product that enables dual systems to run simultaneously  (although the XP software is partitioned as a guest while Leopard is running). I do have Boot Camp free, but I paid the $65 for VM ware, since I had to buy and XP license anyway, to run the 2 systems simultaneously.   VMware has agreements with both Mac and Microsoft for the product so I can't imagine that would be considered a  violation (possibly this has been resolved -I couldn't find anything current, everything eluded to seems older.  This could also just be an issue with users trying to run Leopard on a Windows based system  and not vice versa).

Yeah, I know that we could run zune on a mac like that, but its not free unless you download illegally. But I was looking around, and can anyone tell me what Mono is supposed to do, cause if it lets me run .NET apps, then you could theoretically run zune on a mac without Windows. Right?

 Tubster123 wrote:

Yeah, I know that we could run zune on a mac like that, but its not free unless you download illegally. But I was looking around, and can anyone tell me what Mono is supposed to do, cause if it lets me run .NET apps, then you could theoretically run zune on a mac without Windows. Right?

No...  unfortunately.

Vista can dualboot with pretty much any other system, although compared to XP, the bootloader is very different. Using a program called EasyBCD, it's very easy to dualboot with pretty much any other system in existance (although for windows, you still need to instal it in order of oldest to newest). As for contract, I couldn't honestly care less, I bought the machine, I can load any system I want on it, having an contract that you can use Windows with Mac OS would be illegal and would be a violation of the Anti-trust agreements in US V Microsoft. As for Vista, I won't dive into that, considering I use Windows 7 which as a beta is far more usable and feels more finished than Vista ever did, I've heard that pretty much crossed the board.

@Tubster123, no, .NET Framework is a proprietary MS technology and anything like it is not avalible on any other system. Until Zune is no longer dependant on .NET Framework (which is pretty much impossible, as it's built ground up using it) and the Windows Media Player Engine, it simply will *NOT* work on Mac OS. That simple. Why this thread is still alive I don't understand.

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The Zune is a good machine, so is the iPod, so is a toaster, what's your point? Zune 120.

 Link48010 wrote:

...having an contract that you can use Windows with Mac OS would be illegal and would be a violation of the Anti-trust agreements in US V Microsoft.

What are you talking about, the anti-trust agreements have nothing to do with dual booting. Once you buy a copy of Windows (other than a OEM version, those are tied to just the one machine) you can load it on anything you want, including Apple computers. It is OS X that is illegal to run on anything other than an Apple computer.

 Link48010 wrote:

@Tubster123, no, .NET Framework is a proprietary MS technology and anything like it is not avalible on any other system. Until Zune is no longer dependant on .NET Framework (which is pretty much impossible, as it's built ground up using it) and the Windows Media Player Engine, it simply will *NOT* work on Mac OS. That simple. Why this thread is still alive I don't understand.

Mono is the open source cross platform version of the .NET framework. .NET is not proprietary as is is a standard ratified by ECMA and ISO, hence why Mono even exists. There are libraries Microsoft has made for .NET that only work on windows, these libraries are in the System.Windows.* namespace. This is why Microsoft's implementation of .NET doesn't run on Mac or Linux. The libraries, specifically in this case the media codec and Window Media Framework, are Windows only libraries. Please don't spread misinformation.

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Oh Snap!

Don't you still have to pay for a copy of windows once you get bootcamp?

There should be a program specifically for the mac. This is only losing customers.