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Started by StugLife at 8/26/2008 19:19:48. Topic has 16 replies.
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Join Date: 8/9/2008 07:58:41

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8/26/2008 19:19:48
Hardcore.
Today's hardcore is well away from it's punk roots and Hardcore should have it's own sub-genre thread. Agree or disagree?

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Join Date: 8/24/2008 23:24:50

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9/14/2008 23:22:19
re: Hardcore.
Hardcore should definitely not belong to the punk/ska group whatsoever.

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Join Date: 2/24/2008 06:28:34

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9/16/2008 01:26:38
re: Hardcore.

Very agreed.

Hardcore--------------------------------------------------Punk

Two differnt things.


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Join Date: 9/2/2008 00:46:36

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9/16/2008 23:03:38
re: Hardcore.

For sure. They have an easy listening and a seasonal music thread. They were obviously trying really hard to think of all POSSIBLE sub-genres that people would want to talk about. Hardcore shouldn't have to share.

 

Incidentally, who the eff wants to talk about seasonal music?

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Join Date: 7/19/2008 00:36:33

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9/18/2008 02:52:55
Re: Hardcore.
I'm not sure what your guys are classifying as hardcore, but it certainly still has strong roots in punk, especially when it comes to touring ethics and DIY mentality.


Doesnt need a separate forum.
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Join Date: 8/23/2008 22:45:11

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9/27/2008 16:10:29
re: Hardcore.
You're kidding, right?  Cloak/Dagger, Paint It Black, and *** Up would like to have a word with you about their punk roots.

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Join Date: 8/25/2008 19:29:08

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10/7/2008 19:35:17
re: Hardcore.
I'm not going to get into if hardcore is punk or vice versa because there are strong cases for both. However..
I think there are enough influential bands that started the scene and enough up and coming hardcore bands to def. make a case for zune to make its own sub category. As it stands right now the sub categories are to broad.

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Join Date: 8/19/2008 15:58:45

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10/9/2008 16:09:47
re: Hardcore.
Punk roots don't have anything to do with it really, if we're left classifying genres by their roots then it'd all break down into just R&B and Classical.

When the phrase Hardcore was uttered back in the 80's it was easy to see that there was a HUGE difference between Punk and Hardcore scenes.  Having been a teenager back then and into Hardcore heavily, the music and kids were more aggressive and not much into politics like the Punks were.  Hardcore was more about local social issues than world issues and Punks were mostly touting Peace & Anarchy as the Hardcores were shouting Let's Fight.  This wasn't always the case but you'd be stretching it if you thought Hardcore and Punk were the same thing.

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Join Date: 8/23/2008 22:45:11

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10/14/2008 05:41:39
re: Hardcore.
I can admit to having a hasty and reactionary post.  For the sake of argument, what 80's bands would you be classifying under hardcore, and which under punk?  Just some examples.

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Join Date: 8/19/2008 15:58:45

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10/14/2008 10:49:40
re: Hardcore.
Hardcore was pretty short lived, I think it was the 80 - 86 era of bands and it really only stood to show a difference between earlier Punk bands and the new more aggressive music.  Like I said it was more of a difference in attitude than anything else but a couple of quick examples would be Agnostic Front, Bad Brains, Cro-Mags, Warzone, SS Decontrol were all Hardcore bands.  Crass, X, The Germs, Iggy Pop and DK would all be considered Punk.

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Join Date: 10/14/2008 20:12:10

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10/14/2008 20:17:05
re: Hardcore.
Hardcore is still considered a subgenre of punk, ergo it can stay in the punk subforum.
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Join Date: 8/23/2008 22:45:11

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10/15/2008 00:35:41
re: Hardcore.
There is more to hardcore than NYHC.  And personally I'd feel like the Bad Brains belong under punk, considering the profound effect their existence had on DC punk.

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