From A Loyal Supporter From Day One - When Can We Expect A Statement?

 wytwolf72 wrote:

 sectionboy wrote:

So you don't agree it being called "beta", then fine, what about release version of version 0.75, since it's worse than version 1.0

I've owned mine and my wifes Zune30's since March and have love them(switched from my second Ipod Nano)if I had read any of these forums before upgrading software and firmware I probably would've switched back to Ipod. Unfortunately I made the mistake of upgrading and now would love to run it over with a steamroller, ITS CRAP! Why can't we have Auto-playlists, I had to scrap ALL my playlists and start over! OH WAIT can't make a playlist as EVERY name I've tried comes up as invalid. BULL---T I was warned by so many people before I bought my Zune in March not to feed the GIANT stay with the Ipod, but I said no look at all the cool features, radio built-in, sharing, larger screen.I even talked up the new Zune's to my friends saying look it's even better AND THEN YOU HAD TO GO AND F IT UP. I want to stay with the Zune, but the software makes it very hard when we're going backwards on features!

I agree... Zune's are nicer than iPods.  For some strange reason I'm crazy about both of my Zune 30s even though they have far few features than my Creative Zen Vision:M.  (I can't explain it)  Just because the new software is frustrating you doesn't mean that you have to punish yourself further by going to an iPod.  If you are technically capable (or know someone who is), you might want to consider downgrading your Zune 30 back to the older software and firmware.  the process is unofficial and not supported by Microsoft and you will lose access to the Zune Marketplace, but it certainly is better than buying an iPod.... IMO anyways.  (if interested, see link in my sig)

IWANNAGOLF you're still following me thread to thread posting nothing at all of any use to anyone.......you find every negative thread you can and post only your personal opinion of me that is truely pathetic.

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 sectionboy wrote:

So you don't agree it being called "beta", then fine, what about release version of version 0.75, since it's worse than version 1.0

I've owned mine and my wifes Zune30's since March and have love them(switched from my second Ipod Nano)if I had read any of these forums before upgrading software and firmware I probably would've switched back to Ipod. Unfortunately I made the mistake of upgrading and now would love to run it over with a steamroller, ITS CRAP! Why can't we have Auto-playlists, I had to scrap ALL my playlists and start over! OH WAIT can't make a playlist as EVERY name I've tried comes up as invalid. BULL---T I was warned by so many people before I bought my Zune in March not to feed the GIANT stay with the Ipod, but I said no look at all the cool features, radio built-in, sharing, larger screen.I even talked up the new Zune's to my friends saying look it's even better AND THEN YOU HAD TO GO AND F IT UP. I want to stay with the Zune, but the software makes it very hard when we're going backwards on features!

 IWANNAGOLF wrote:

you have discovered stoic... negative troll has been lurking here since v2 release. just bashes people for fun. ignore him. dont feed the troll.

Yeah, I've run into him in another thread.
Almost seems like he works for the Zune group... "unofficially" of course

you have discovered stoic... negative troll has been lurking here since v2 release. just bashes people for fun. ignore him. dont feed the troll.

Unfortunately there are those of us stuck with these issues because of a column that CAN NOT be edited. I'll say that again CAN NOT be edited. The Contributing Artist Column has no edit option what happens when all your tags are re-wrote and that cloumn has more than one artist in it now? You end up getting multiple albums because certain songs even though you put the main artists name down still shows up in a different section because of the contributing artist. Now then how would you fix it? By fixing thing the column causing the issue right? Well when you can't fix the column you can't fix the issue. Or better yet you can't re-write the artists who did the song because of this column as well. Now if there is a fix for this I'd like to see it because all I have seen is really are fixes for the Metadata meaning you re-name a couple files and that solves it all. Well no it doesn't really and thats part of the problem right there. As for the so called early 08' that could be as late as June before we see an update word.

St0icr4ven,

 Solar257 wrote:

For now those are the things about the Zune software that strike me as odd. I could talk about the video section not having folders, but it works, to me it's just underdeveloped. It does what its supposed to and is consistent. I hope this is not considered a rant becasue I love the software, its easy, beautiful and handles the process of getting everything onto the Zune quite nicely. A lot of thought went into the program and it shows, but the inconsistencies leave me scratching my head sometimes and having to put in more work with the device and software than I would expect to in the simple process of syncing my music files, videos and podcasts. If anything else comes to mind, I'll add to this.

That was at the end of my first Transgressions thread post, and I don't believe I edited that phrase at all, even after I went through and de-rantified it. How is that hypocritical? People are looking for answers and, I've seen you help them, which is great. But the tone (there is such a thing on the internet) in which you write your answers isn't constructive at all. I look at your signature and think "wow." Something else I've seen is that you do half the work in helping out in some cases. Here, you identified my problem as a metadata bug but failed to elaborate. And agan earlier today, you did the same thing again. What part two is to try to point the user in the right drection. Me knowing that I have a metadata bug wasn't too specific. LukeTrocity FTW knowing that there are other users who "know the specific version" of tags used by the software isn't either. Those two posts alone lead me to believe you're read my posts or have seen WillysJeepMan's thread (you may have quoted him on ocasion, I don't know), but not linking them after alluding to them in ongoing discussions (or any information source) is not constructive.

Oh, and AMD is taking steps to fix an eratum bug and has given a timetable for updated chips. It has also responded to possible rumors about the bug as well.

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sorry but then all the haters would then hold the Zune Team to definitive answers and of course when they're demands aren't met they would then threaten to burn things down.  NO thanks I prefer to being left in the dark.......then again there have been countless threads on how to fix certain issues regarding the zune software.  Anyways continue along with your crusade of demands on patch info.

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Hows it coming finding me 'hating' on someone liking the software?

BTW early '08' is 100% more definitive than anything The Zune Team has said. I think all of us would suffice with a general idea. 

I am done with the banter with you, it does nothing for me or for this thread.

-Lil'

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There's no definitive date "early 08" I read just fine I know how MS works with software updates and release info.  So by all means please continue your crusade of demands and ignorance.  You will not find a single thread or post by ANY Zune Team member on patch info until it is a 100% sure thing using the volitale gaming world just makes your "point" so much more credible............but not really.

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 st0icr4ven wrote:

For all those that are shouting about info on an update find a company who develops software and let me know how much they tell you about an update that is in the works......Wait no in fact you don't even NEED TO you won't find one [/quote

Actually I did.. quite recently in fact. Imagine that, a company who has admitted a mistake and presented how they were goign to fix it. Click the link below:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,140404-c,games/article.html

Lil apparently you can't read or you only read what you want...

Maybe its you who needs to read a tad better... LMAO!

Where have I 'hated' on someone for liking the software? Care to point that out?

-Lil'

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 lilsalmon wrote:

st0icr4ven did I even come close to speaking about you or toward you? Nope, didn't think I did. So keep your personal attacks to yourself and get a life. I have done nothing but ask questions in a professional manner as have many others.  Keep drinking the Kool Aid kid, you'll get far in life. Try and take an objective look at things for change.

BTW maybe ZuneThoughts didn't hear you either?  I hate to see someone or worse yet have some thoughts of thier own and discuss the issues with the Zune.

For the record... the only person statring a personal attack is you. Grow up, gotta love people with internet muscles... LMAO!

-Lil'

I look at it objectively and I recognize the fact there bugs but I have brains enough to know how software releases work.  You are demanding answers that you'll never get and you'll continue to demand them becasue for some unknown reason you think you're entitled to them.  MS will NOT EVER release info on updates until it is a for sure thing.  The have had dev teams within MS do this before and it's only ended up messy and FFS get off the kool-aid kick you don't see me telling you to lay off the haterade do you.  Friggin ridiculous how you people think it's okay to hate on the software but OH KNOW heaven forbid someone actually LIKE the software and voice how they feel, you people are entirely too hypocritical.

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