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Started by APOLAUF at 11/29/2007 15:30:30. Topic has 206 replies.
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Join Date: 11/16/2007 11:50:42

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12/1/2007 19:44:36
re: The Empty Battery

If I put mine in the case and ANYTHING touches the pause on -off button it turns it on and display goes out with timer and it just sits there turning the hard drive till it goes dead.

you have to hold pause till it turns off completlly and the get a new habit of switching on the lock switch to leave it off and then it won't drain batt.

new HABIT use the lock switch

snowman


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Join Date: 12/1/2007 18:43:52

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12/1/2007 19:05:40
re: The Empty Battery

My 30 has been doing this since the firmware update a couple of weeks ago that came with the new software.  Drives me nuts...  I have to fully charge it to get the battery error to go away...

If I this continues I may buy the new Creative Zen...

Possibly a Zune 8 or 80 if the second gen does not have this issue... 

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Join Date: 11/13/2007 21:03:11

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11/30/2007 21:39:42
re: The Empty Battery
samething with with me , its this stupid new softwear . ever sence the new update ppl have been having problems .
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Join Date: 11/27/2007 00:16:25

Posts: 61

11/30/2007 18:03:15
re: The Empty Battery
 Daklu wrote:

Hey everyone, the Zune team is aware of the battery issue and has been actively working on finding a resolution.  Unfortunately I can't comment on the progress or when a fix might be available.  Those types of announcements have to come through official channels and the decisions on when to make those announcements are made by people much higher up the corporate ladder than me.  I use things too and I know how frustrating it can be when it feels like you're talking to a brick wall.  I just wanted to poke my head out the door and say we feel your pain (we use Zunes too) and we're doing the best we can.

As an FYI, if you have issues with your Zune here is my personal list of Do's and Dont's for getting someone's attention.  Mostly it is being civil and using common sense.  Luckily the vast majority of the posts I have seen have been of the Do type rather than the Don't type.

DO
-Call the support line.  This is probably the single most important thing you can do.  Even if they are completely unhelpful the issue is logged in a database.  Support calls are the primary way we find out what kinds of problems people are having.  When enough people call in with a battery problem it bubbles up to the top of the list of issues to address.
-Post a message on the forum describing your problem.  Include as much detail as you can.  Which Zune model do you use?  How long have you had it?  When did the problem start happening?  Does it happen all the time, most of the time, rarely?  What are you doing when the problem happens?  Listing to music?  Viewing pictures?  Browsing your library?  Too much information is much better than too little information.  The forum is an unofficial feedback mechanism but there are a few Zune staffers who read it. 
-When you start a new thread describing a problem, try to include key identifying words in the title:  Battery, Zunepad, screen, headphone jack, etc.  "Help" might be a good one too.  For myself, I don't have time to go through all the threads.  I tend to use the search feature to find threads I can specifically help out with.
-If somebody else has already posted a thread about your issue or closely related to your issue, don't start a new thread about it.  One thread with 150 replies is much more likely to be noticed than 15 threads with 10 replies.
-Try the solutions other users have posted and post your results.  You never know what might work and there is a chance it could help direct us to a solution.

DON'T
-Make demands in 150 point bright-red font.  I can promise there isn't a single person here who will read a message like that and say, "OMG, this person used 150 point bright-red font!  We'd better do something about it!"  I find that just plain annoying; I suspect others do too.  If I am annoyed at a thread I am unlikely to respond to it.
-Make assumptions about our motives.  Contrary to popular belief, those of us who work at Microsoft don't sit around smoking $1000 bills and thinking of ways we can stick it to the customer.  Just like everyone else we take pride in our work and want people to enjoy the results of our efforts.  When customers are happy, we're happy.  When customers aren't happy, we're not happy.  Most likely your assumptions are wrong and I'll just get annoyed.
-Insult us.  We're all very busy and don't have time to engage in "conversation" with someone who is more interested in arguing that discussion.  Besides, I'll get annoyed.
-Title your post "ZUNE STAFFER PLEASE READ!!!!!!!!!!"  I'll read what I want thank you very much.  If you want me to read your post, write something interesting.  Wink [;)]  I find all caps and multiple exclamation points annoying.
-Use 1337 5p34k.  (Is there anyone who doesn't get annoyed at that?)

These are just my personal guidelines for posting.  If you want to say, "2u(\)3 5uxx0rz, 1p0d r0xx0rz" in huge, multi-colored, flashing font, by all means do so.  Just don't expect a response.



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Join Date: 11/27/2007 00:16:25

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11/30/2007 18:01:16
re: The Empty Battery
Ihad this issue and the Zune software wouldn't let me sign into the marketplace.  Per cust. service I drained the battery then recharged it for six hours.  No luck.  I eventually returned the product and got another 80 gig.  No drainage prob thus far and I can now sign into marketplace via the Zune software.  This is the prob, as I see it.

In my previous Zune, after setting it down for some time I would merely need to brush the touch pad to turn it on.  On the new Zune I must depress the touch pad after it is off a few minutes.  I believe the software update on the original was bad allowing the Zune to remain in low power standby not off.   My recomendation:  Un install everything then reinstall it.  I am not sure if this is opossible on the Zune itself, it should be.

By the way, I am a general contactor and not very computer literate. I can build a building but not program a computer.  Take my advice with a grain of salt.  Trust but verify.

thanks,
Dean
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Join Date: 11/26/2007 18:21:54

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11/30/2007 17:45:10
re: The Empty Battery
thanks for the info, it is sound advice and i think anyone with any respect for others should follow it


now then i just bought a 80 gb zune and i upgradeds to the new firmware and i havent been having his problem not uet any way when i got my zune i charged it through my usb over night and then when i got up it was full battery so i listened to it for an hour or so then i used the play/pause button to turn it off and locked it i then left it for 7-8 hours while i helped a friend move and when i came back to  it it worked fine with full battery i then used it to watch half of fight club and then put it to sleep again and went to bed i havent checked it yet but when i get home around 1 i will but i dont expect any problems
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Join Date: 11/27/2007 21:46:18

Posts: 36

11/30/2007 17:14:00
re: The Empty Battery

Hey everyone, the Zune team is aware of the battery issue and has been actively working on finding a resolution.  Unfortunately I can't comment on the progress or when a fix might be available.  Those types of announcements have to come through official channels and the decisions on when to make those announcements are made by people much higher up the corporate ladder than me.  I use things too and I know how frustrating it can be when it feels like you're talking to a brick wall.  I just wanted to poke my head out the door and say we feel your pain (we use Zunes too) and we're doing the best we can.

As an FYI, if you have issues with your Zune here is my personal list of Do's and Dont's for getting someone's attention.  Mostly it is being civil and using common sense.  Luckily the vast majority of the posts I have seen have been of the Do type rather than the Don't type.

DO
-Call the support line.  This is probably the single most important thing you can do.  Even if they are completely unhelpful the issue is logged in a database.  Support calls are the primary way we find out what kinds of problems people are having.  When enough people call in with a battery problem it bubbles up to the top of the list of issues to address.
-Post a message on the forum describing your problem.  Include as much detail as you can.  Which Zune model do you use?  How long have you had it?  When did the problem start happening?  Does it happen all the time, most of the time, rarely?  What are you doing when the problem happens?  Listing to music?  Viewing pictures?  Browsing your library?  Too much information is much better than too little information.  The forum is an unofficial feedback mechanism but there are a few Zune staffers who read it. 
-When you start a new thread describing a problem, try to include key identifying words in the title:  Battery, Zunepad, screen, headphone jack, etc.  "Help" might be a good one too.  For myself, I don't have time to go through all the threads.  I tend to use the search feature to find threads I can specifically help out with.
-If somebody else has already posted a thread about your issue or closely related to your issue, don't start a new thread about it.  One thread with 150 replies is much more likely to be noticed than 15 threads with 10 replies.
-Try the solutions other users have posted and post your results.  You never know what might work and there is a chance it could help direct us to a solution.

DON'T
-Make demands in 150 point bright-red font.  I can promise there isn't a single person here who will read a message like that and say, "OMG, this person used 150 point bright-red font!  We'd better do something about it!"  I find that just plain annoying; I suspect others do too.  If I am annoyed at a thread I am unlikely to respond to it.
-Make assumptions about our motives.  Contrary to popular belief, those of us who work at Microsoft don't sit around smoking $1000 bills and thinking of ways we can stick it to the customer.  Just like everyone else we take pride in our work and want people to enjoy the results of our efforts.  When customers are happy, we're happy.  When customers aren't happy, we're not happy.  Most likely your assumptions are wrong and I'll just get annoyed.
-Insult us.  We're all very busy and don't have time to engage in "conversation" with someone who is more interested in arguing that discussion.  Besides, I'll get annoyed.
-Title your post "ZUNE STAFFER PLEASE READ!!!!!!!!!!"  I'll read what I want thank you very much.  If you want me to read your post, write something interesting.  Wink [;)]  I find all caps and multiple exclamation points annoying.
-Use 1337 5p34k.  (Is there anyone who doesn't get annoyed at that?)

These are just my personal guidelines for posting.  If you want to say, "2u(\)3 5uxx0rz, 1p0d r0xx0rz" in huge, multi-colored, flashing font, by all means do so.  Just don't expect a response.


-Dak Zune Product Team .: This posting is provided "as-is" with no warranties, and confers no rights :.

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Join Date: 11/24/2007 21:58:13

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11/30/2007 12:08:35
re: The Empty Battery
Same here - 80gb zune.  Worked fine last night, fully charged.  Woke up this AM, and the battery was dead - recharging now
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Join Date: 11/30/2007 11:54:59

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11/30/2007 11:57:38
re: The Empty Battery
Just got the new 80 and it's not working the next day like yours...I'm returning the Zune until Microsoft acknowledges the problem and fix..good luck....
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Join Date: 11/19/2007 09:27:07

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11/29/2007 16:27:13
re: The Empty Battery

I too have a problem with the battery. I have a Zune 8, though. Even though the battery icon indicates a half charge left, the device would eventually turn itself off and show the "empty battery" icon.

I will try the "full charge followed by a reset" procedure to see if it helps.

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Join Date: 11/29/2007 15:33:00

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11/29/2007 15:33:31
re: The Empty Battery
I guess this is what happened to me.  Over the holiday weekend we drove from St. Louis to Oklahoma City.  The night before driving back I left my fully charged Zune in the car.  But the next morning the battery was completely dead.  Couldn't happen at a worse time as I was facing an all day drive.
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Join Date: 11/15/2007 20:02:20

Posts: 57

11/29/2007 15:30:30
re: The Empty Battery
 infuser72 wrote:
 APOLAUF wrote:

A full hard reset (NOT just a reboot) and firmware re-upgrade with my Zune 80 has *completely* solved the problem.

To do so, reboot with back+up, then immediately hold back+left+play until you see the restore operation start. Then re-sync and re-upgrade to 2.2. No more problems, at least for me.



did your zune 80 ever restart or shut off completely while playing music? just curious before i do a hard reset

Always has, and still does, despite the hard reset. Battery problem is gone though.

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