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Join Date: 11/14/2007 14:36:21

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1/23/2008 15:07:15
re: 10 Tips and tricks for using the Zune software (features only, no hacks or 3rd party apps unless by design)

I listen on my computer at work, but can't seem to find the equalizer on the computer based program?  You used to be able to choose from "Rock, Jazz, Hip Hop" etc.  Anyone know where I can find it?

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Join Date: 1/2/2008 00:33:06

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1/3/2008 03:34:13
re: 10 Tips and tricks for using the Zune software (features only, no hacks or 3rd party apps unless by design)

What you can do is go to WMP, create a playlist, save it as a M3U playlist to the same directory as the Zune music directory, and it automatically recognizes the playlist.  Next time you sync, you have a playlist on the device.

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Join Date: 12/26/2007 20:05:11

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12/29/2007 13:11:27
re: 10 Tips and tricks for using the Zune software (features only, no hacks or 3rd party apps unless by design)
 khu wrote:

4.  Import playlist

You can import a playlist created by another application such as Windows Media Player.  The playlist directory is a sub-directory of your media download location.  To find this, go to Settings --> Software --> General.  Make note of the location you selected for downloaded media.  Browse to that location in Windows Explorer and you will find a Playlist subdirectory.

Create a playlist with a 3rd party application and save in m3u format.  Copy the playlist to your Playlist directory and the Zune software immediately sees it.  When I did this, I actually saved the list to that location and it created duplicates in the form of a .zpl, .wpl, and .m3u.  I deleted all but the .zpl.

You can easily and permanently delete lists by deleting them from this directory.  You can also quickly change the name of a list by opening the file in a text editor like Notepad and changing the name.  It is just a few lines down from the top and easy to recognize.

You can also drag a playlist file to the Playlist window.

I have a brand new Zune 80 and have a lot of playlists in WMP that I'd like to have on the Zune. I did each step exactly as you outlined a couple times to make sure. I opened each of the 5 playlist files with notepad to verify that data existed. Each file contained only the references to the individual mp3 files. There was no other data or name of the file listed from top to bottom. They work fine in WMP but Zune wouldn't recognize them. I then manually created them with the same names and then replaced the empty files with the full files. Zune still sees them as empty. It never created the wpl or the zpl files by itself so I copied each one to a zpl file manually. Still nothing. You must be referring to a previous version of Zune with these tips. Any chance you tell us how to do it in the latest version? For the record, I would still rather manage this thing with WMP. It works way better and I already know my way around it. Thanks.

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Join Date: 12/6/2007 10:52:40

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12/12/2007 13:42:32
re: 10 Tips and tricks for using the Zune software (features only, no hacks or 3rd party apps unless by design)

HI,

I noticed that the M3u's could be dragged into the playlists area.  If I have X ammount of songs, why does it say it wants to synch around twice as many?   This is after I have clicked the playlist and selected synch playlist.. with an empty zune.

 

KY

 

PS.  I am also getting a lot of c00d11cd errors as well.  Many of these songs are ones I copied from CD, some are old ones I have no idea where they came from... friends... downloads...  Any ideas on how to find out specifically what the errors are for?

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Join Date: 11/27/2007 00:38:44

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12/12/2007 03:45:09
re: 10 Tips and tricks for using the Zune software (features only, no hacks or 3rd party apps unless by design)
 pito4rock wrote:
what is the explorer that you talk about in the drag and drop


Hmm, with that comment alone I can already tell you're beyond the point of help    Hmm [^o)]

Jf Vigor

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Join Date: 12/11/2007 00:26:48

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12/12/2007 01:14:30
re: 10 Tips and tricks for using the Zune software (features only, no hacks or 3rd party apps unless by design)
ok 1: where do i find those feature like guest syncig  2: what is the explorer that you talk about in the drag and drop 3:wher do i find the software that you talk about it 4:how can i export my playlist of wmp 5: i just buy the new 80gb just 2 day ago and i getting tired of this because i cant hear my music only a couple of songs that the program send it to my zune and i dont now how they get there  please i need heeeeeeeeelp Super Angry [8o|]
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Join Date: 12/5/2007 16:44:18

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12/11/2007 20:35:46
re: 10 Tips and tricks for using the Zune software (features only, no hacks or 3rd party apps unless by design)
 khu wrote:

It seems a lot of the bugs have already been thrown out there and much of the talk is shifting to features.  This post is intended for people that are not having software and hardware issues and want to know how they can use the Zune features to do what they need.  I think most of us can agree that there are many undocumented features (the help pages are a little...light...) and I wanted to point out a few things.

 

To set expectations, I will only be talking about features designed into the software and hardware and not focusing on 3rd party apps meant to replace parts of the software, fix software issues, or hacks.

 


1.  Store content on Zune but not on PC

The Zune has a feature called Guest syncing which can be used for this.  Guest syncing provides the most control over what you put on your device and has several limitations.  This feature is designed so that you can easily get DRM-free content from one Collection and move it to another.  Features that will be impacted with Guest sync:

  • No automatic sync
  • You may not be able to move DRM content
  • No automatic syncing of Podcasts
  • No wireless sync (part of automatic sync)

In the software, if you go to Settings --> Device, you will find an option to Forget this Zune.  That will remove the association between your device and the PC and the PC will no longer be its "Home" PC.  Once your device is forgotten, when you reconnect the Zune, you will be prompted to connect as Guest or make the PC its Home.  Connect as Guest.

 

After you connect, you will be able to move any non-DRM content from the Collection to the device.  This will have to be done by either flagging the content with Sync To Device or dragging it to the Zune icon.

 

Once you have all of the content copied over, you can delete the content from your Collection.  Verify that it did not delete from the Zune and you can then delete the content from your PC.

 

In my testing, the only real drawback I saw is that when you use the Zune software to browse the device, album art does not show up.  However, album art is indeed on the device.

 

2.  Drag and drop from explorer to Collection

There is a particular hotspot in the gui but I have successfully dragged and dropped music and video.  For music, launch the software and go to the Collection --> Music tab.  Select the files in Windows Explorer and drag them to the center pane where your album covers appear.  The mouse pointer should change to a + and you can drop.  A message appears at the bottom of the window stating X Media Items Found or Invalid Media.

 

You can do the same with movies but need to be on the Collection --> Movies tab.

 

3.  Copy by Playlist

The software is now designed to make sure when you sync a playlist, it puts all of the necessary tracks on the device.  Regardless of whether or not it is already on the device, create a playlist, add tracks, and Sync to device.  If a song is not on the Zune and it is needed for the list, it should get synched.

 

4.  Import playlist

You can import a playlist created by another application such as Windows Media Player.  The playlist directory is a sub-directory of your media download location.  To find this, go to Settings --> Software --> General.  Make note of the location you selected for downloaded media.  Browse to that location in Windows Explorer and you will find a Playlist subdirectory.

 

Create a playlist with a 3rd party application and save in m3u format.  Copy the playlist to your Playlist directory and the Zune software immediately sees it.  When I did this, I actually saved the list to that location and it created duplicates in the form of a .zpl, .wpl, and .m3u.  I deleted all but the .zpl.

 

You can easily and permanently delete lists by deleting them from this directory.  You can also quickly change the name of a list by opening the file in a text editor like Notepad and changing the name.  It is just a few lines down from the top and easy to recognize.

 

You can also drag a playlist file to the Playlist window.

 

5.  View your playcount

Playcount is now visible on Zune.net but you can also view this from within the software.  Go to the Collection --> Music tab and on the right, you can select Browse or List.  Select List.  Right click on a column heading and select Choose Columns.  Find Play Count and make sure it is checked.  You can now view your Play Count for each track as well as sort by that column.  This can give you a good idea of what you might want to rotate out, rotate in, or get rid of completely.

 

6.  Shuffle...then shuffle more...

This was an update sometime back but may still be a little known feature.  If a shuffled playlist isn't shuffled enough, you can continue to shuffle it.  Without leaving the screen, toggle Shuffle on and off several times.  It will shuffle the already shuffled list.

 

7.  Zoom for that closeup

It is a bit limited but when viewing a picture on the Zune, hit the center button.  You will get an option to Zoom In.  When selected, you can use the wheel to pan and scan around the picture.  A small icon appears in the bottom right that will show you where in the image your focus lies.

 

8.  Use quicklist to repeat a single song

Unfortunately, there is no built in featue to simply select a song for repeat.  However, you can add the song to your Quick List and set the Quick List to repeat.

 

9.  RDS and the FM Radio

One of the much touted features of the radio is pulling in RDS (Radio Data System) information.  Depending on what the station chooses to broadcast, you can get a wide range of information on the display of your Zune.  Call letters are fairly common but I have seen others report one station actually broadcasts DJ information.  Here is an article that outlines what is available through RDS.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Data_System

 

Keep in mind that the headphone cord works as an FM antenna.  Also, even if the station sounds clear, you might not always get a strong enough signal to get the RDS info.  Of course, not all stations broadcast RDS but it is still a pretty cool feature.  With luck, in the future Zune users could get the same kind of info on the Zune display as many see with satellite radio.

 

10.  Find location of file

Although we no longer have an actual menu item to Find Location, some may still find the need.  Find Location was an option that appeared when right clicking on a file in the old software.  It would automatically launch a Windows Explorer window that went straight to that location.  You can still do so even though you aren't prompted.

 

Right-click on a file and select Properites.  The path to that file appears in red in the Location area.  If you click on the path, it will launch an Explorer Window.  This is handy for jumping straight to a directory that contains a file or finding the directory if you are not quite sure how you organized it on the disk.


Feel free to add any other tips others may find useful.

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Join Date: 11/15/2007 20:58:57

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12/10/2007 23:14:25
re: 10 Tips and tricks for using the Zune software (features only, no hacks or 3rd party apps unless by design)
Awesome tips. I have been cursing the fact that you can't see the play count. Thats rocks!

Some people are born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple.

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Join Date: 11/28/2007 00:55:05

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12/10/2007 23:04:52
re: 10 Tips and tricks for using the Zune software (features only, no hacks or 3rd party apps unless by design)
I have error code: C00D11D2
which is defined as: Windows Media Player cannot access the file. You might encounter this error message for one of the following reasons:
  • This file is currently in use. Close the file, and then try again.
  • You do not have permission to access the server or other location where the file is stored. Verify that you have the appropriate access rights, and then try again.
    • You do not have permission to access the proxy server. Verify that you have the appropriate access rights, and then try again.

   1.  Tried it, no help.   2.  These are podcasts from zune marketplace, so why wouldn't I have access ?  3.  we don't have a proxy server, so no again. If anyone can help me, I would appreciate it a lot.

 

 

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Join Date: 11/27/2007 00:38:44

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12/10/2007 16:23:53
re: 10 Tips and tricks for using the Zune software (features only, no hacks or 3rd party apps unless by design)
This is a really good topic! Thanks.,.. 5 star

Jf Vigor

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khu

Join Date: 11/13/2007 18:41:25

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12/10/2007 02:06:46
re: 10 Tips and tricks for using the Zune software (features only, no hacks or 3rd party apps unless by design)

I'm  glad you found something useful in the post.  Much appreciated.  I hope this doesn't come off as patronizing...

 

GUI refers to a Graphical User Interface.  Basically, that is whatever the computer user sees and interacts with to do things in the program.  In this case, it is the Zune software's window.

 

When I referred to a "hotspot", that is a term that refers to a specific place where you can take a specific action.  For the Zune software, I found the "hotspot" for dragging and dropping was in the same area where the album covers appear.  If it isn't "hot", you can't take action in that place. 

 

Do you get an error for all podcasts or just a specific podcast?  What is the error?  I am not as familar with Podcast errors -- I have been fortunate and had very few problems -- but there may be something in the error that another will recognize and allow them to offer some suggestions.


Microsoft Support Articles for Zune

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Join Date: 11/28/2007 00:55:05

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12/10/2007 01:37:01
re: 10 Tips and tricks for using the Zune software (features only, no hacks or 3rd party apps unless by design)

1.  Thanks for this. Very Helpful. 2.  I am very computer illiterate. What do you mean by gui (There is a particular hotspot in the gui ) 3.  I cannot get podcasts to download. I subscribed from Marketplace and they go to download, but then I get an error code. Tech support hasn't answered in one week! Any help on this?

 

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