PETITION: Add WMP Support!

Just to be clear, the Zune Software is the only way to SYNC with the Zune Hardware.

You can certainly manage your PC collection/library using any tools you want, us any tagging utilities, use any organizational tools, use any ripping software, etc.

 

 st0icr4ven wrote:

Maybe you fail at reading as well and weren't a first gen adopter.  That's alright I will let you explain to me why it is necessery for MS and the Zune Team to give the Zune WMP11 support.  How does giving the Zune WMP11 support keep the device from getting lost in the massive library of PFS devices already on the market?  How does the product stand out, how does it become unique, how does it compete with Apple/iPod/iTunes if it's just another PFS device where there are already 70+ such devices on the market?  I'm open to suggestions if you actually want to tackle that problem.

OK, consider me ignorant. How would 'giving the Zune WMP11 support' result in the device 'getting lost in the massive library of PFS devices already on the market'? Are you saying that the Zune PC-based software is what makes the Zune hardware so unique and special? That the only way the Zune can 'stand out' and succeed is if it has PC-based software dedicated to it--like Apple has with iTunes? That seems like poor reasoning to me.

 

I don't have a Mac; on that platform, however, doesn't iTunes meet everyone's media playback needs--whether the user owns an iPod/iPhone or not? WMP *used* to meet everyone's needs on the Windows platform; that's no longer the case now that the Zune software has been released and that it is the only way to interact with the Zune hardware.

 

FYI: I got a Zune 8GB a few weeks ago and am very impressed with the hardware itself. My only complaint to this point is that I had to install yet-another-media-management-application (the Zune software), have it spend hours building yet-another-media-metabase, and, after that, find that I'm not all that impressed with the software after all. I *still* prefer to use WMP11 for audio and video playback as well as for streaming Internet radio. I miss WMP's EQ and SRS WOW enhancements, too. I *do* like the integrated podcast support that is integrated into the Zune software--podcast support is something that is sorely lacking in WMP11; there is no excuse for Microsoft not adding it when that product was released.

 

As the originator of this thread said, I want native Zune support in WMP11!

 st0icr4ven wrote:

Ozzie I've only been able to conclude you know nothing.  So before you start throwing around fanboy words like "fanboy" at least know something about me.  So far from what I've been able to tell from your post you have nothing good to say about the software, hardware, or MS for that matter.  Again I don't need imps like you following me around in every thread I'm in simply to comment about me in one way or another.

And you know nothing about me. The reason I got a Zune in the first place was because I fell in love with the software. In my opinion is much better than iTunes,  sadly it lacks a lot of features. Also it has a lot of problems and bugs. Should we ignore the problems and let them fly because they are Microsoft? No! And for your information I do like Microsoft, I just know when to say theres a problem, not like you that tries to cover up their errors...  you take them too personally. Anyway... good luck with your Zune problems and take it easy. Not everyone is a smart azz like you :). Happy holidays!

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 st0icr4ven wrote:

Maybe you fail at reading as well and weren't a first gen adopter.  That's alright I will let you explain to me why it is necessery for MS and the Zune Team to give the Zune WMP11 support.  How does giving the Zune WMP11 support keep the device from getting lost in the massive library of PFS devices already on the market?  How does the product stand out, how does it become unique, how does it compete with Apple/iPod/iTunes if it's just another PFS device where there are already 70+ such devices on the market?  I'm open to suggestions if you actually want to tackle that problem.  Ozzie I've only been able to conclude you know nothing.  So before you start throwing around fanboy words like "fanboy" at least know something about me.  So far from what I've been able to tell from your post you have nothing good to say about the software, hardware, or MS for that matter.  Again I don't need imps like you following me around in every thread I'm in simply to comment about me in one way or another.

Ok, first of all, The fact that other PFC devices have failed to gain the kind of momentum that the iPod has gained has nothing to do with them being PFS. Apple has a superior marketing strategy and brand recognition. Other companies have failed miserably at penetrating the US market with their devices because they refuse to MARKET the device the way Apple has. When the average non-techie Joe Schmoe walks into best buy, and sees the other brands he has never heard of them and will purchase the same iPod his friend has. As far as the average consumer is concerned, the Zune IS just one of the other devices. I might add that the average consumer does NOT KNOW WHAT A Playsforsure (PFS) device is. I do, because I used to own one, and it was great.

If the Zune is to be in the same leage as the iPod, it has to at least match it's functionality. Right now, the current iteration of the Zune software is about as useful as a knife in a gun fight. Itunes has done nothing but grow over the years. I have followed the iPod's growth closely. The Zune software, instead of taking a leap forward, took a step backward. Right now, WMP is great at what it does, and works seamlessly with PFS devices. We are asking for THAT SAME SEAMLESS interaction for the zune, the same functionality as the competion (The iPod). I suggested in another thread that in the next WMP update, there should be two versions. One for people with PFC devices and a Zune Edition for Zune users. The Zuneedition would have Market Place built in. What's wrong with that? That way, everyone is happy and we don't have to sacrifice functionality.

I want the Zune to compete with Apple and iTunes, but it can't do it with buggy software and buggy firmware. (PERIOD)

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Microsoft ALREADY has a prodcut for WMP11 (a PFS device) called the i-river.  Again it's foolish sticking the Zune in with that library, the zune then just gets lost in the entire mess.  I'm just wondering when you guys are actually going to admit it, then i remembered the answer is never.  You all seem to be perfectly okay with the Zune not standing out from the mess of PFS devices.  You all harp and complain about the limitations of the zune software wise then you want to add support for another software system in WMP11 but then limit that as well which goes against what you want to begin with whether you want to admit it or not.

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 st0icr4ven wrote:

Maybe you fail at reading as well and weren't a first gen adopter.  That's alright I will let you explain to me why it is necessery for MS and the Zune Team to give the Zune WMP11 support.  How does giving the Zune WMP11 support keep the device from getting lost in the massive library of PFS devices already on the market?  How does the product stand out, how does it become unique, how does it compete with Apple/iPod/iTunes if it's just another PFS device where there are already 70+ such devices on the market?  I'm open to suggestions if you actually want to tackle that problem.

Locking a device into a single piece of software is simply mimicking Apple's approach.  Microsoft is no Apple.  Apple could get away with locking iPod owners into iTunes because it didn't have the legacy of consumer multimedia that Microsoft does with things like Media Player and Media Center.

When Microsoft produces a consumer device that is extremely incompatible with their other multimedia services (PFS-based download services) and multimedia software (WMP, MCE) then it makes Microsoft appear to be incompetent at best, manipulative at worst.  Like it or not, consumers are going to compare the Zune against other multimedia offerings from Microsoft and logically conclude that there should be some synergy there.  Currently there is very, very little.

I know what Microsoft is trying to do... build up the Zune Marketplace.  They are trying to following Apple's blueprint of success, but what they really should be doing is a 2 prong approach.... provide interoperability with their other multimedia solutions, but offer the best and exclusive features solely via their software and marketplace. 

Allow the Zune to interoperate with WMP11... but only support wifi sync via the new software.  Only support podcasts via the new software too.  etc.  PMPs are luxury items and people have a choice.  The way to get them to buy into your device and vision is to convince them, not force them.

Maybe you fail at reading as well and weren't a first gen adopter.  That's alright I will let you explain to me why it is necessery for MS and the Zune Team to give the Zune WMP11 support.  How does giving the Zune WMP11 support keep the device from getting lost in the massive library of PFS devices already on the market?  How does the product stand out, how does it become unique, how does it compete with Apple/iPod/iTunes if it's just another PFS device where there are already 70+ such devices on the market?  I'm open to suggestions if you actually want to tackle that problem.  Ozzie I've only been able to conclude you know nothing.  So before you start throwing around fanboy words like "fanboy" at least know something about me.  So far from what I've been able to tell from your post you have nothing good to say about the software, hardware, or MS for that matter.  Again I don't need imps like you following me around in every thread I'm in simply to comment about me in one way or another.

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Hold your breath someone is about to tell the greatest lie EVER!

Apparently Apple is not the only one that has fan boys :) lol (that or he or someone related to him works for Microsoft). Everyone should respect everyone's opinion. Just because you don’t have any problems with the software (which is a lie since you were having problems with some DRM songs) doesn’t mean everyone else’s should be fine.

I had the duplicate problem with a few songs and I fixed them by doing a lot of things like changing ID3 tags on the songs or renaming them, etc. Yesterday I had to reinstall Vista and now I have 6 songs that weren’t having the problem before. Why? Well I don’t know and I’m still waiting for an answer from Microsoft.

By the way I was browsing the Microsoft website and I found this “Zune 2.3 - PC software for Zune“

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/browse.aspx?displaylang=en&productID=E461AD4C-3A41-4C10-8FEA-ED5051D0576D

Update coming soon or an error?

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 st0icr4ven wrote:

Return it and go buy a PFS device PROBLEM SOLVED.  If you're not going to do that then shut up already.

Dude, why are you harping on people simply because they are asking Microsoft to improve their product? Given the overwhelming amount of people who want WMP11 support, if we took our Zunes back to the store, and bought PFS devices, the Zune wouldn't be in business would it? WHat the hell is wrong with asking Microsoft, a company thats been in the software business for decades, to improve the software that came with their Zune device? Especially when they already have an excellent piece of software already? Here's an Idea, when Microsoft does improve their software, you don't have to upgrade. Just stick to your sucky software of choice.

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 MNCabinGal wrote:

I, too, would appreciate WMP support for the Zune....

Return it and go buy a PFS device PROBLEM SOLVED.  If you're not going to do that then shut up already.

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Hold your breath someone is about to tell the greatest lie EVER!

I, too, would appreciate WMP support for the Zune....

Your right I didnt read,       more like you didnt read my points which pointed out every single thing that you posted. You fail at reading too, but whatever, If the software work like the old I wouldnt even be here. I dread so much everytime I have to sync my zune, or get new song, it is so frustrating.