From A Loyal Supporter From Day One - When Can We Expect A Statement?

 st0icr4ven wrote:

Mobil i've read some responses and 99% of them are good.  I haven't heard anything on the battery life yet but other people are saying touchpad response is much better (which is what I've experienced) and that Wi-Fi sync is much faster as well (nearly 100% faster according to WillysJeepMan).

Just a minor clarification... I have experienced significantly faster wired AND wireless syncing with the new firmware.  Tests were performed with the same pc hardware, same Zune hardware, same Zune desktop software.and same media files.  the only difference was the firmware.

This firmware tightened some things up on the device end (sync speeds in particular) so much that I'm now using my 30 that has the new firmware and new software as my MAIN player now.... and keeping my dowgraded 30 for testing purposes.  I'm looking forward to the additional tweaks and fixes they'll be sending our way.

I have to agree that it does lend a little sense of comfort knowing that they are working on things, and if they want they can continue to right the ship and quickly and then we all can start singing the praises of the hardware that it truly deserves. st0ic is right in that there are more positive responses to 2.3 then the last update. Not everything has been addressed but it can be. So I will have a little more patience for now. 

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Mobil i've read some responses and 99% of them are good.  I haven't heard anything on the battery life yet but other people are saying touchpad response is much better (which is what I've experienced) and that Wi-Fi sync is much faster as well (nearly 100% faster according to WillysJeepMan).

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I am fairly sure that 2.3 didn't address everyone's gripes, but for those that want to see action, it shows that Microsoft is working on it. :)

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It is the natural balance of things, you know opposites in all things, you are always going to have a few fanboys and a few negative nancies to balance out the forums, and don't forget to make it entertaining also !

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 IWANNAGOLF wrote:

dont feed the troll. stoic... has been lurking since day 1 bashing people. ignore him.

Do you wake up everday and decide when you're going to forum stalk me?  You truely are the definition of pathetic.

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dont feed the troll. stoic... has been lurking since day 1 bashing people. ignore him.

Who said the software rocks?  I get tired of saying this because you negative nancies don't seem to get the fact that I have never ONCE stated the software was the best ever.  So again leave your rather narrowminded perceptions at the door and at least know what you're talking about before you start throwing around insults and if you're going to at least have the balls to take it like a man and not some nancy boy.

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This stuff makes me feel the need to jump in against my better judgement! I think in a community forum like this the best way to get results is to allow everyone to feel the way they feel about the software there doesn't need to be a unifying consensus of opinion. I for one hated the software update being an original 30 adopter and having my experience and my library/collection totally mangled by it with out a choice. But now a few weeks later and a lot of tedious work with mp3tag and manually renaming and organizing my zune folders (which should never have been needed) I am starting to change my tone about the software. The truth is the hassle and distaste from the software was and is real for a lot of people, and there are a lot of people who find the software sufficient and are happy knowing it can be updated/patched. I just think telling everyone who was unhappy that there feelings are invalid or expecting people to be happy with third party workarounds starts the great divide and expecting that everyone must hate it and there is nothing good to come from it just adds fuel to the fire.

Maybe this will help:

1. Allow people who were truly put through the ringer by the version 2 update to feel the frustration they truly feel. On the other hand just ignore the trolls looking for a flame war. The software should organize and protect your media out of the box not require 20 different work arounds and third party software and a media-collection rebuilding tool that most consumers will overlook and just assume that the software is broke and junk.

2. Those that don't like the software should understand that others might not have encountered their troubles with it and might really enjoy it and look forward to the potential the new program has being built from the ground up. Or understand that the might have found ways on their own to make it functional. Last but not least just ignore the blatant fanboyism that's bound to come up, like when someone tells you to shut up and download cause the software ROCKS!

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 ledexplosion wrote:

Stoic-

blah blah blah

You clearly work for microsoft due to your biased opinions and your more blah blah blah. The only reason you arent complaining like rest of us is because you have a nice working apple i-Pod to play your music while the zune team stares in the mirror and smiles. 

You don't have to work for MS to be a Zune lover. And it's true that 3rd party developers have better softwares (Tried it, loved it.) But that's not to say that Zune had the worst update ever. The itunes is still not much of an improvement after many years of work (if they did work on it) and the Zune did make a nice software based on appeal and ease of usability for those who actually tries to see the improvement. The only trouble they encountered was the misnaming of files and incorrect monitoring files, which they have posted and stickied (put on top) in the threads, which mostly everyone had ignored and just rambled off complaining their problems to everyone and spamming the entire forum, which doesn't care. (welcome to the social)
And since you have not even owned or operated the Zune, I don't think you have the privilege of criticizing Stoic's opinion. After all, he has owned a Zune(probably more than one, increasing his knowledge and experience) while you could only base your limited experience on the software. Here's a comforting spot: the Zune hardware is actually much better and smoother, and in other cases, much more creatie than the ipod. (large fonts with purposely wrong captialization with cutomizable backgrounds compared to Ipod's black text with perfect punctuation and white background) It may be true they might not have email, but there are Zune posters working here who had actually posted solutions. Shouldn't the consumer be faulted a little bit for ignoring what they have to say?

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 SpryboyAustin wrote:

I dunno about you, but I've worked in software development for decades, and very little gets done right before or after Christmas, so I'm not holding my breath :-)  But you're absolutely right, that there's going to be hell to pay on Christmas morning if they don't at least get a decent bug-fix version out, so that people stop having so many problems with tags, album art, etc, etc.

Well said, spryboy, well said.  I've only been in s/w for 1.5 decades but I totally agree with you.   I'd like to see all the big ticket items sooner than later (ie Feb, not next Nov) but there are certainly some kinks to be worked out.  I had no trouble at all installing and configuring the v2 s/w (and I like it as a syncher/browser) but my dad's machine had a hell of a time with it.  His PC is lower memory and maybe didn't have a .NET or two installed, but geez.  The install took about an hour and we didn't know what the heck was going on because there was almost no feedback and the darned progress meter kept resetting itself... verrrry bad practice, that.  And when it did finally launch the GUI was really flakey because of his crappy onboard video.  Once I got into the settings and turned off the "bling" we were good to go, but for Christmas day those kind of issues need to be gone!

And, hey, I don't mind waiting till March(!) if it gets me a damned clock on the zune!  and a text browser, that was great on the iPod for holding my game FAQs and walkthroughs while I play xbox :)

lol, I love how i'm talking about the software & 80GB Zune 2 and all St0ic can throw back is a completely unrelated snippet about battery life for the 30GB Zunes. Reaching much?