Turn off auto sync on 2.2 firmware?

 Medley2 wrote:

  Why did someone think it was a good idea to make it harder for users to have control over their music?!! This whole 2.2 autosync debacle has frustrated me enough to want to switch back to an IPod! I shouldn't have to jump through hoops (sign on as a guest or figure out how to unmonitor files) just to keep music from being deleted off my zune! WTF?! The first version was much better...whoever came up with this ridiculous and completely idiotic feature should really be handed the pink slip! MS, fix this soon or what little market share you have now will most certainly disappear to Apple’s IPod!!

SO REDICULOUSLY TRUE ! MS IS GOING TO LOSE WHAT THEY HAVE..BUT EXCEPT FOR THE SWITCHING TO IPOD. IPODS ARE A PIECE OF TRASH. MAYBE SWITCHING TO A BASIC MP3 PLAYER, BUT MOST DEFINATELY NOT A PIECE OF *** IPOD. AT LEAST NOT IN MY CASE AND A MAJORITY OF MY FRIENDS WHO HAVE ZUNES.

 UhOhh LeLe wrote:

STILL, MS STILL HAS NOT FIXED THIS ISSUE. I SHOULD NOT HAVE TO BE A GUEST ON MY OWN COMPUTER. THIS SUCKS HELLA. I HAD ZUNE WHEN IT FIRST CAME OUT AND IT WAS PERFECT THEN..AND NOW , ITS A PIECE OF TRASH. I'VE REALLY STARTED TO HATE MY ZUNE. ITS BEEN EMPTIED AND I HAVEN'T USED IT SINCE NOVEMBER. IAM EXTRA OCD ABOUT ORGANIZATION AND HAVING TO TRANSFER MY FILES BACK AND FORTH FROM MY REGULAR ACCOUNT TO BEING A "GUEST" IS VERY ANNOYING AND I DON'T HAVE THE TIME OR PATIENCE FOR IT ! UGHHH

I feel ya and agree with ya. But since the current software does suck, it's just the way to do things until if gets fixed (I still hold out hope that I'll see it in my lifetime).

Once you have the majority of your collection on your device, maually adding albums/videos/pictures as you get them isn't a big deal though. It's as close to the old software as you can get and has me at least liking my Zune again. I started in love, then it turned to complete hate with version 2, and now I'm content for the time being.

I missed the empty part, although you can just highlight your whole collection by album or titles and sync them all at once. Just be sure to edit your collection and get rid of anything bad before sync'ing (you should be able to just go in and delete them after sync'ing them as well, although some things show they delete but are still there on device even when gone from software). That's what I did with my newest Zune (an 80G named 6, since it's my 6th device in just over a year. I've had worse luck than most with hardware dying on me, so I'm getting to be pro at re-filling a device).

Guest since 2007

 Bigdaddyhorse wrote:

 UhOhh LeLe wrote:

STILL, MS STILL HAS NOT FIXED THIS ISSUE. I SHOULD NOT HAVE TO BE A GUEST ON MY OWN COMPUTER. THIS SUCKS HELLA. I HAD ZUNE WHEN IT FIRST CAME OUT AND IT WAS PERFECT THEN..AND NOW , ITS A PIECE OF TRASH. I'VE REALLY STARTED TO HATE MY ZUNE. ITS BEEN EMPTIED AND I HAVEN'T USED IT SINCE NOVEMBER. IAM EXTRA OCD ABOUT ORGANIZATION AND HAVING TO TRANSFER MY FILES BACK AND FORTH FROM MY REGULAR ACCOUNT TO BEING A "GUEST" IS VERY ANNOYING AND I DON'T HAVE THE TIME OR PATIENCE FOR IT ! UGHHH

 

I feel ya and agree with ya. But since the current software does suck, it's just the way to do things until if gets fixed (I still hold out hope that I'll see it in my lifetime).

Once you have the majority of your collection on your device, maually adding albums/videos/pictures as you get them isn't a big deal though. It's as close to the old software as you can get and has me at least liking my Zune again. I started in love, then it turned to complete hate with version 2, and now I'm content for the time being.

I missed the empty part, although you can just highlight your whole collection by album or titles and sync them all at once. Just be sure to edit your collection and get rid of anything bad before sync'ing (you should be able to just go in and delete them after sync'ing them as well, although some things show they delete but are still there on device even when gone from software). That's what I did with my newest Zune (an 80G named 6, since it's my 6th device in just over a year. I've had worse luck than most with hardware dying on me, so I'm getting to be pro at re-filling a device).

WOW 6TH ? THAT'S CRAZY.
ITS JUST I REALLY DON'T HAVE THE TIME FOR ALL THAT WITH MY BUSY SCHEDULE. THAT'S WHY IT NEEDS TO GET FIXED ! I HAVE THOUSANDS OF MUSIC FILES AND PICTURES, HUNDREDS OF VIDEOS....IT IS GOING TO TAKE DAYS FOR ME TO SORT OUT EVERYTHING ! WHICH IS WHY IAM SO STUCK ON MS FIXING THIS. THEY CREATE NEW PATCHES FOR THE OTHER ISSUES ( THAT NOT MANY PEOPLE SEEM TO HAVE ), BUT WON'T FIX THE MAIN ONE ! ONLY BECAUSE, ACCORDING TO THEM, "THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH IT" KAUSE THEY'RE MORONS AND MADE IT THAT WAY UGHH :: ROLLS EYES :: I DON'T WANT TO FEEL LIKE MY DAD WASTED $275 ON IT FOR ME ( HE GOT IT WHEN THEY FIRST CAME OUT ) YOU KNOW ? SO IT SUCKS THAT I HAVEN'T USED IT IN 4 MONTHS.

Herbal Scientist. Music Connoisseur. 

This is very annoying. I have a latop which is always in need of more space and there is NO WAY I can KEEP 80G of music downloads on it at all times, I am a part of the audience (which I believe most are, and MS made a HORRIBLE ASSUMTION to think not) that wishes that the only files they download to put on their Zune are only on their zune instead of constantly consuming space on their PCs. I recently reformatted my entire PC and have yet to plug my zune back into my laptop knowing that once I do all the songs on my Zune will recognize the lack of the files being on my PC and delete hours of time I have spent downloading songs!!I have neither the time nor the patience to deal with making another User account to put my files in, and believe that to be a HORRIBLE SUGGESTION, and do not know how that is APPEALING to ANYONE!!! As of Late I have become disgusted with Microsoft and it's lack in support or care for their customers, from my xbox, microsoft wireless router, and my zune, Microsoft is proving itself to be nothing but worthless! I'm tired of being told that I have to pay $60+ dollars to recieve decent support on their products, and tired of the worthless advice that the support phonelines will provide for free!!!!!

If there is an update to fix this please someone inform me.

Lord of Tragedy:

We don't have a solution to this yet, but I will say that the complaints have been heard loud and clear. 

However, let me point out that if you have completely reformatted your PC, then you can safely plug your Zune back into your PC and recreate the relationship from scratch.  What you will see is that the Zune software will think that the device has a sync relationship with "another" PC (since if you reformatted, your database on the PC was lost), and if you re-create a device relationship, it will leave any content on the device completely intact.  It will simply show up as "guest" content in the gas gauge and will not be touched unless you add that content back to your PC's collection, at which point the link between the tracks will be re-established.

While we can't discuss plans for future features, we fully understand the sort of behavior you're looking for.

Zune Product Team .: This posting is provided "as-is" with no warranties, and confers no rights :.

Herbal Scientist. Music Connoisseur. 

I am a new Zune owner and am incredibly disappointed with this answer. "optimized the behavior for the audience that wants to keep the library and the content on the device acutally in sync". Ridiculous! Have you ever heard of the concept of thinking outside the box. The problem is by targeting a specific audience you will only be able to sell to that specific audience, and no one else!! This is why your sales have been dwarfed by iPods. Let the consumer make the decision on what they want, and give as many options as possible to allow you to maximize your audience. By opening up with various options you will attract a larger audience and sell more Zunes. I would think the end result of Microsoft is to do just that, sell more.

I have also read of several work arounds to fix this "auto sync" and delete from library issues and would like to know if this is going to be fixed with a patch to the software? The device in itself is asthetically very nice, and the functionality of the device is quite nice. But the software is not user friendly and the sync is an issue, if not for your target audience then to those who are not targeted and buy it anyway. After three days I am very upset that now, I need to look into buying an external hard drive to fit more of my music in library to stay on the Zune, or do a work around. Why should I have to do a work around after shelling out $250 on the device?

Another point is that this is not mentioned by the sales person at Circuit City (they were extremely knowledgable on the iPod), or on the box, or in the non-existent user guide that did not come with the device (this was sarcasm). Now, can you please let me know if this "delete from library delete from Zune" non-issue will be fixed in a patch or newer software version? If it will be fixed then I will keep the device. If not then I will go back and get a device that does have me in mind when they marketed their device. Last but not least, your response was not a very good one, but rather left you and the Zune Team open for much criticism. But you probably already know that based on the numerous responses I see posted on the boards.

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