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Started by wishdragon2 at 11/14/2007 01:42:35. Topic has 1749 replies.
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Join Date: 11/13/2007 21:21:36

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11/14/2007 01:42:35
re: Any one who hates the new software say something about it

I won't go as far as to say I hate the software, but I am a bit dissapointed in it.

 

Clock for one thing. You have wireless syncing now and can't figure out how to throw in a simple clock?

 

Some say who cares, it is just a clock, wear a watch. Well frankly I don't like watches, and if I am allready carying the zune why would I want a watch too, even my piece of crap creative zen had a clock. Not that hard...

 

Little dissapointed in the syncing as well. Guess I figured with the syncing that maybe you could view the music library and sync to and from what you wanted any where you were so long as you were reaching the network, but that doen't seem to be the case, you have to be controlling things within the zune software which kind makes the wirless syncing pointless, if you have to be a few feet away might as well plug the thing in.

 

Just the 2 major things I don't like ATM, I am sure I will find more as I dive into it more, but just won't go as far as to say I hate it.

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Join Date: 11/14/2007 01:31:00

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11/14/2007 01:43:53
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what the f*** is the piece of s*** you call software some one needs to get fired bigtime, why the hell didnt yall just turn windows media player pink and rename it zune and take out some features that dont go with the zune and add the marketplace.

this new software is a bunch of s***


Hire me i'll get the software a whole lot better

what the hell did yall copy it sure wasnt itunes, windows media player or even real player there are all way better

did yall even test this crap its horrible i want my old software back f*** this new s**t. I hope yall stock crash for this s***

this crap shouldnt have been released this is alpha prerelease software, did yall do any damn test on this crap. GO TAKE A DAMN LOOK AT WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER
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Join Date: 11/13/2007 17:34:40

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11/14/2007 01:47:28
re: Any one who hates the new software say something about it
You can't make everybody happy all of the time, or so one of Aesop's fables tell us.  The old software, while essentially a rebadged Windows Media Player, was cumbersome.  Cumbersome.  Did the Zune team misstep in leaving out advanced features?  Yes.  Does it mean it's irreprable?  Not at all.  The new software is so much faster than the old one.  That alone gives it "win" points in my book.  While I've had some issues with the new software, I'll still take it over the old one.  And now the Zune team doesn't have any excuses to not come fast and furious with the updates and new features.  They spent a good chunk post-release of 1.0 on the new platform for 2.0, which looks like they're going to build on top of (instead of rebadging old Portable Media Center / WMP software).  That gives me hope. 

Now, if the Zune team takes another year to come out with significant updates, then we're going to have a problem.  Now is the time to take the ball and run, Microsoft.  Including the EQ in the new Zune firmware at the 11th hour was impressive.  The Zune 80 reviews from sites are very positive.  The momentum is shifting, and you need to take advantage of it.
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Join Date: 11/14/2007 01:41:53

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11/14/2007 01:49:26
re: Any one who hates the new software say something about it
i personally think this update is great. the software is running so much faster and i noticed the zune is running much smoother moving through the menus and songs. i do wish the update would allow you to connect to wifi anywhere and be able use the wifi to connect to the marketplace and download with outhaving to sync with your computer. and it would have also been nice to be able to store files like a external hard drive. or even saved game files on my xbox360. but maybe the next update.
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Join Date: 11/13/2007 13:03:07

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11/14/2007 01:51:08
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 f00kie wrote:
You can sort by genre in the "list" view.  You can also add any fields you want from there (Right click on the columns and choose edit columns).  You can also edit (albeit one at a time) all the ID3 info in the list view as well (Right click -> edit) - bulk editing would be nice...... but it works for me for now.  Aside from lacking bulk editing, it's not too bad in list view.

 BryPT wrote:

Yup f00kie, I found everything you posted about. I'm starting to think people just need to explore the software abit. Some things just are different from the old software but their there.

 

Why can I not EDIT MUSIC INFORMATION ON AN ENTIRE ALBUM? WOULDN'T A MUSIC FILING SYSTEM ALLOW YOU TO EDIT MUSIC TAGS? Oh sure, I can change the album title, but what if the Band name came in wrong, or the tracks or the Genre? Oh wait, nobody used the god damn genre, so don't have to edit that. Do I need to install WinAmp on my machine and go back in and edit the freakin metadata for the files?

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Join Date: 11/14/2007 01:45:03

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11/14/2007 01:56:22
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Agreed, I like it; the software appears to be a step up in usability.  Once I took a few minutes and worked with it I got the hang of how it worked.  I decided to use my time to explore the new UI rather than wasting my time complaining about everything in the forums Smile [:)]
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Join Date: 11/14/2007 01:55:17

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11/14/2007 01:57:10
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I don't even have a Zune, but I downloaded the first Zune software and I immediately went back to iTunes.

I loaded up the new software today and I must say I'm impressed. It's missing a few features and organization schemes that iTunes has, but I'm going to stick with it for a while. In fact, I intended on doing a PROS/CONS list, but at the moment I can't think of any significant issues to bring up.

It is a huge improvement and I am impressed thus far. Congrats to the Zune Team!



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Join Date: 11/14/2007 01:55:00

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11/14/2007 01:57:26
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i hate the new software, it cant find any videos or songs, its confusing, and doesnt work nearly as well as the old one
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Join Date: 11/14/2007 02:01:14

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11/14/2007 02:12:43
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I have to say that this new software is very unintuitive and difficult to use.  It needs to at least have themes so you can change the hard on the eyes white and the transparent background doesn't cut it.  It's very hard on the eyes.

The previous software was just plain obvious how to use.  This one is just confusing.  My opinion on any software is that I should be able to look at it and know within a couple minutes how to use it...design it for a mooron.

As far as the new firmware, I'm fine with it.  Not really much of a change except for the BIG A** font.  I can see the font with my eyes closed.  It needs an option to change font size.

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Join Date: 11/14/2007 02:24:08

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11/14/2007 02:37:06
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OMG!!!! I need drag and drop why would you take that away from us ;( it's so sad I can't even make a playlist properly, because all my songs are organized out of the Zune and when I'm in the Zune Software it's so messy.  What I mean by drag and drop is drag music in a folder or on your desktop and put it into your zune player or playlist.  I also have a sugestion I think that software should allow you to view and explore by folders instead of mixing all the music together like some undead monster.  I want to make this clear BRING DRAG AND DROP BACK PLEASE!!!!!! I can't fuction without it.  Or you can make the software as similar to Windows Media Player but have all the cool flying, pretty colored effects.

BRING DRAG AND DROP BACK!!!!!!

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Join Date: 11/13/2007 17:51:10

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11/14/2007 02:39:32
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I love the new look, I love the new layout, I love the new feel... But its just WAY too buggy and glitchy to be used.
Its really a shame, for such nice looking software to be so bad. Please patch it soon.

The cake is a lie!

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Join Date: 11/13/2007 17:26:48

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11/14/2007 02:40:54
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 ZZSpeler wrote:
Dude, the Zune-team worked months on the new Zune-software, and I think it's great. The fact that one feature is missing which some of us would like back doesn't mean they have to respond within a few hours (or even days) after the release.

{...SNIP...}

Also I´m sure the zune software-team will notice that a proportion of the Zune-owners like the autoplaylist and I'm sure they will consider it for a future software update.

Wow, that's great, I'm glad they've won you over.

There's a couple of problems with your statement. It's not just one feature that's missing. It's a lot of features. Take a look around the forum and you'll start to get the picture.

Secondly, it's not like they aren't reading this. They have responded to some posts, but they are not responding at all to the hundreds of users that are upset about their design decisions.

I have my own software development company. If a client complained about the look of their software, and I made some enhancements to that, but then tried ripped away several core functions that the client depended on; I wouldn't expect them to be happy about it; and if I didn't apologize and immediately correct the situation, I'd expect that they'd fire me. Just because this is a product and not a custom job doesn't mean you can ignore your customers, or that we should be happy little victims to the veritable design tyranny that is the current mess. No way.

The reality is that the V2 update is much like the laser etching; does a lot for the esthetics, but completely worthless otherwise. It's like they gave the design team the ball, and if they couldn't figure out how best to fit a particular feature in, it ended up as a "phase two" item. But they forgot--this IS phase two.

The only thing that should have happened with autoplaylists was to fix them. They were buggy on the last version.

Again, take a look around to get the big picture of what's missing, what should have been in this release, or changes that have been recieved negatively, but here are some more: rating system "simplified"; autosync priorities missing (resulting in "device full" message); nonsensical track ordering for artists, lack of ability to organize video or even the metadata for the videos, overly compressed album art images that look like crap, still no way to delete tracks on the device, inability to determine or set the target video bitrate, ...the list goes on.

Not only did this release not fix problems that were discussed again and again on the previous device--with some third party solutions rising up to fill the void left by the zune team--but it actually took away things that WERE working.

Further, there is so much more they could have done. Here are some ideas, since the team is having trouble thinking of new concepts:

Use the wifi to create an ad-hoc network of local area zunes. Now you have multiple people on multiple zunes listening to a broadcast off one zune. Imagine hanging out with your friends and simulateously bobbing your heads to a group beat. 1337!

Use the wifi to listen to internet radio wherever you can find a access point, or download podcasts from the net direct to your device without needing the desktop software.

Use the wifi to get to your social inbox directly to download sent tracks without the need of the desktop software.

Add a feature on the radio to scroll only to favorite stations.

The ability to assign a genre to a track on the device, similar to changing the rating.

I'll be the first to admit that they did a lot right with this version: yes, the software looks good, yes, the integration with the marketplace is fantastic, yes, the podcasts work even better than I had expected... yes, wireless sync is nifty (but as I said before, since the device can only be charged out of the box with the included USB cable, this feature is pretty much useless unless you feel like shelling out more money for another charger).

But let's face it--these aren't where they spent the most time; they clearly spent the most time on the software in the UI. Unfortnuately, this is an example of form over functionality; and I think a lot of users would rather rather have something that looked like excel if it had all the features we wanted.

I didn't buy the zune because it looked good, or to impress my friends. I'm not an applehead. I've always stuck with MS because they have a history of practicality--a features-first mindset. I hope that corporate gets the zune team in line.

So fine, maybe an apology and timeline is asking for a little much. But at least, can we have a little recognition on this issue???

-The Squeaky Wheel

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