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Join Date: 12/26/2007 15:44:35

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1/15/2008 14:37:15
re: The Twilight Zune, or the ongoing Saga of Zune repair and (non) customer service (part II)

Does anyone that works at Best Buy know anything?

I got a kick out of the Best Buy "Customer Service" (and I use the term loosely) telling the OP that they should've bought the extended warranty.  I once bought a $10 phone and they offered the extended warranty for $3 or something.  If a $10 phone breaks I think I'll just buy a new phone.

The only time I buy anything from Best Buy is if I know exactly what I want.  If I have questions about products I'll read about them or go to a competing store that seems to have knowledgeable sale staff.

 


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Join Date: 11/13/2007 20:56:49

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1/15/2008 21:04:01
re: The Twilight Zune, or the ongoing Saga of Zune repair and (non) customer service (part II)

I will agree on the best buy thing.  Some of my worst shopping and customer service experiences was with best buy.  I once had an entire stereo system installed in my car, over $2000 total, and it was a nightmare.  They ordered wrong parts, never told me installation wasn't complete because they were waiting for the correct stuff.  I was ready to strangle the manager.

Stolly


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Join Date: 12/19/2007 02:31:57

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1/15/2008 21:15:29
re: The Twilight Zune, or the ongoing Saga of Zune repair and (non) customer service (part II)

what i use a lot os amazon.com it works good for me :)


"You can pay for school, but you can't buy class"
---Zuning since December 2007

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Join Date: 1/12/2008 01:35:24

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1/16/2008 16:12:51
The Twilight Zune, or the ongoing Saga of Zune repair and (non) customer service (part IV)

The Twilight Zune, Part IV:  Lots of Zunes being sent back for repair after Christmas.

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Tuesday, 1/15/08, ~12:40pm.  After some time with UCG and then Ken (see FYI below for explanation of "Tiers" at Zune), Ken finally put me on with Chantelle, a Tier 2 Escalation Consult (even thought my ordeal had already previously been escalated to Tier 3).  Even after I got her "alias", Chantelle was mostly pretty crass and uncaring with me.  But she finally did confirm again that my player has apparently been located and is now at the "waiting to be repaired" phase.  She had no indication on her screen that the purchase date confirmation was in progress, or even that the box had been opened at all; only that it had been located and was now in the system.  Again I am disappointed to learn that even Fred, at Tier 3, embellished his story to me on Saturday (about the purchase date confirmation, and that if I called on Tuesday there would be more updates and good news).

Here's the kicker: Chantelle revealed to me (more than once) that because of the Christmas season and the apparently ensuing avalanche of Zune warranty problems that the repair facility is running way behind on repairs.  Her exact words were "the Christmas rush has things backed way up at the repair facility".  Because my unit was delivered to them on Jan 2, it fell into the Christmas repair rush.  I suppose it's highly unfortunate for me that my Zune happened to fail just 9 days BEFORE Christmas, but the fact that I first reported the problem a week before Christmas gives me absolutely no priority.

Finally, since my lost Zune has been located, it seems to be back in the regular repair queue and the priority level of my case apparently lowered.  Chantelle told me it would likely be another week (1/23 is the target) before my player is looked at, and it will only be after that that the status on the website is updated.  It will be another 5 business days after that before it is shipped back to me (or 1/30).  If that plays out, I will have been going through this ordeal for about a month-and-a-half.

I'll post again next week after the promised date.

Phone Time: ~25 minutes. .

 

FYI:  At Zune, there are 3 levels of support help.  The first level (after you call the 877-GET-ZUNE number and hear UCG) is termed "Tier 1" (e.g. Ken), where most calls are handled.  If it turns out you need more help than Tier 1 can provide, you're moved up to Tier 2 (e.g. Chantelle).  After that, the rare calls get to "Tier 3", aka "Triage" (e.g. Fred and Elliot).  As I've mentioned in previous portions of the Twilight Zune sage, my case was at Tier 3, which got my lost Zune located, but then apparently was knocked back down to Tier 1 or maybe Tier 2 (Chantelle wouldn't really tell me the current level).

Also, anytime you talk with anyone at Zune, the first thing you should do is ask for their "alias".  It shows that you have some knowledge of their system, and provides for a little additional accountability on the part of the support person.  The aliases are usually fairly cryptic, so have them to spell it out for you.

Ron

 

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Join Date: 12/26/2007 15:44:35

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1/16/2008 16:41:31
re: The Twilight Zune, or the ongoing Saga of Zune repair and (non) customer service (part IV)

And what are the purposes of aliases again?  I know I read in there earlier but I don't want to reread the whole thing again.

Back to Best Buy, I know a couple people that call them Worst Purchase instead of Best Buy ;-)


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Join Date: 1/12/2008 01:35:24

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1/16/2008 16:52:19
re: The Twilight Zune, or the ongoing Saga of Zune repair and (non) customer service (part IV)

 Dan Fielding0 wrote:
And what are the purposes of aliases again?  I know I read in there earlier but I don't want to reread the whole thing again.
Aliases are apparently used by Microsoft (and Zune, which is not Microsoft) internally to identify employees.  I guess it's a method by which they can give out indirect identification to customers without actually giving out first/last names, phone numbers, email addresses, etc.

The funny thing is, I always ask for phone numbers from the people I talk to, and without fail they all say they don't have phone numbers; that I have to go through 877-GET-ZUNE and UCG.

 

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Join Date: 11/13/2007 20:56:49

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1/16/2008 16:58:56
re: The Twilight Zune, or the ongoing Saga of Zune repair and (non) customer service (part IV)

Just curious, not being rude, have you talked to any tier 1 people that did not have an accent? 

In my 4 calls, I have not.

Tier 2 on the other hand have all spoken perfect english.

Just wondering.

Stolly


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Join Date: 1/12/2008 01:35:24

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1/16/2008 19:04:27
re: The Twilight Zune, or the ongoing Saga of Zune repair and (non) customer service (part IV)

 stolly23 wrote:
Just curious, not being rude, have you talked to any tier 1 people that did not have an accent?
Nope.  Tier 1 must be contracted out of the country (USA) - very common in these industries.  However, the Tier 1 folks I've spoken with seem to have different accents; so they must contract the Tier 1 support to companies with locations in differing countries.  And yes, Tier 2 and 3 folks seem to be back in the U.S. (in addition to phone numbers, I usually also ask them where they're physically located - so far they've only given me time zones).

 

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Join Date: 11/15/2007 00:07:48

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1/16/2008 19:54:50
re: The Twilight Zune, or the ongoing Saga of Zune repair and (non) customer service

Your story does not make me feel any better.

OK, so here’s the story. The first day Zune v 1.0 came out, I bought a black 30 gig Zune. I loved it. Music, video, I even figured out how to get my podcasts on it, and used the FM transmitter in my truck. The device worked thru workouts, walks, even mowing the lawn.

When Zune v 2.0 was announced, I was so excited. I couldn’t wait to get my hands on a 80 gig. Smaller in size with even more capacity, great! Then the connector on my 30 broke. Oops, oh well, now I can justify buying a 80. Release day, no 80 gigs to be found.

I read thru the forums, Engadget, Gizmodo, listen to several TWITs and discover that Zune 80 is in short supply. Having podcase withd drawl, I decide that I will just get Zune 4 and wait till the 80 gigs become more plentiful. I goto the store, choose a 4 and get ready to pay. I decide that I want a Zune Home A/V pack. I go back and while looking at a different shelf, what do I see. A 80 gig! I couldn’t believe it. I get before anyone else spots it.

New device, new software, I really liked it, even ough others didn’t. After a few days with it, and seeing a post of a guy incorporating his Zune with his radio in his car, I went and bought a double din Alpine to connect my Zune to, so I could have music, video, podcasts and all.

A week later, and my truck torn apart, what happens? The Zune 80 locks up. Black screen, no response. I find some solutions on the Zune.net forums, and try them, but nothing works. I call Zune support. They tell me to try what I have already tried. I try it again, with support, nothing. He suggested I leave it plugged in over night and let it charge. I did that, and it didn’t change anything. I called support again, created a repair order (we will call this the origional repair order) and waited for my box to come. I received my box, put my Zune 80 in it, and sent it off.

It was received in Hidalgo, Texas on 12/17/2007 It has not been seen since.

I have been very calm and patient, especially for someone that had their new device for a week and a half, and since then, its been nonfunctional, in transit, or somewhere within Microsoft.

Since the first of January, I have:

-          been given another repair order

-          been escilated 4 times

-          spoke to second level and third level (which I was told today there is not a third level)

-          been hung up on 7 times (usually after the waiting when you first call support, they answer, don’t say anything, then after about 2 seconds hang up)

-          been told I will be called back the same day or the next day at least 4 times (never received a call or email)

-          been told twice that a “bug” has been put on it

-          spent a total of over 8 hours contacting / speaking with / and holding on the phone

Right after I sent my 80 off, I even bought a Red Zune 30 to use till the 80 got back, and then give it to a friend for Christmas.  (That makes three Zunes I have purchased)

After being a loyal Zune customer, telling everyone who asked about it how great it was and how much I loved it, this is how I get repaid?

I spoke with Zune support again today. After having two repair orders, I still have to trudge thru first level support, wait on hold, then speak to second level support. Listen to the same” I understand”, “I am sorry” sympathy speech, be told that they read the case, then be asked questions that tell me they have not read the case. No one will tell me who their supervisor or manager is, no one will give me information so that I can contact them when no one calls me back, so I have to wait thru level one and level two every time I call, making it over an hour each time I call.

You know what? I am frustrated! The interior of my truck has been torn up for over a month, waiting for this thing so I can finish the customization. 

 The situation seems to be that when I placed the origional order, someone put in that it was a 30 gig device instead of a 80 gig divice. So the repair order was canceled by Microsoft / Zune. I was not notified. I was not told till I contacted Zune on January 1. Today, January 16th, we are no further along than we were then, and apparently, no further than we have been since the middle of December.

One January 1, I was given 1000 Zune points ($10 or $20 worth) A lot of good that does me. I bought three Zunes, and nothing to play it one. (Red one went on Christmas) All my friends were excited to see my stereo with the Zune. Several have gone on to buy iPods, cause they didn’t want to have to go thru this with Zune.

I do not know what else to do put to start e-mailing this out, and posting it on forums. I really didn’t want to have to do this, but I don’t know what else to do.

Anyone have any suggestions? Help? Support? All will be appreciated.

Kirk

 

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1/16/2008 21:33:46
re: The Twilight Zune, or the ongoing Saga of Zune repair and (non) customer service (part IV)

Walrhus,

I like your background on your zune card, that is great

Stolly


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Join Date: 11/16/2007 08:59:31

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1/16/2008 21:43:36
re: The Twilight Zune, or the ongoing Saga of Zune repair and (non) customer service
WOW.....that is very unfortunate.  Feel bad for you, hope you get assistance.
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Join Date: 1/12/2008 01:35:24

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1/16/2008 23:28:45
re: The Twilight Zune, or the ongoing Saga of Zune repair and (non) customer service (part IV)
 stolly23 wrote:
Walrhus,

I like your background on your zune card, that is great

Stolly

Thanks.  I like yours!  I presume those are your kids?

 

I'll try to keep the background updated with the latest status (directly from the http://www.zune.net/repair website).  As of a few minutes ago, it hasn't changed.  I wish there was a way to post the actual images, but here's the text from the 3 warranty repair pages.  This is where this whole mess got started.

 

The "Manage your device" page (the first page):

  • Device: Zune
  • Serial Number: 128996xxxxxx
  • Warranty Status: Out of Warranty
  • Warranty Status: Waiting for Device at Service Center

     

  • The "Manage your warranty status" page (keep in mind this unit was purchased on 4/14/07):

  • Device: Zune
  • Serial Number: 128996xxxxxx
  • Warranty Status: Out of Warranty
  • Warranty Type: Standard
  • Warranty Start:
  • Warranty Expiration: 11/28/2007 6:59:59 PM

     

  • The "Review your repair status" page (FedEx says arrived in McAllen, TX on 1/2/08):

  • Device: Zune
  • Serial Number: 128996xxxxxx
  • Repair Status: Waiting for Device at Service Center
  • Carrier Name: FEDEX
  • Carrier Tracking Number:

     

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