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Join Date: 7/22/2008 01:33:15

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1/1/2009 00:19:31
re: Help-frozen zune!!!!
 Melissamusic wrote:
Please forgive my ignorance, were is it getting an illogical time/date stamp?
 KarboMusic wrote:
 Melissamusic wrote:
 KarboMusic wrote:
 Melissamusic wrote:
I agree. Why would the Zune Player care what time or what day it is without any way to check the correct time? I would understand that the device could fail if there were a conflict in the times if connected to a computer but for it to fail on its own sounds kind of fishy. I think M$ is just buying themselves some time to come up with a fix.
Believe it or not... There was a time when a device could contain an internal clock all by itself... Thats not fishy...
So it has an internal clock, so if that clock is wrong then it would just show the wrong time. not crash a system.
Not really, if a single line of code attempts an operation (dealing with dates/timestamps) and gets back a time/date that isn't "logical" there is going to be an unexpected result. (IE: Freeze)
internal clock like the bios on you pc....
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Join Date: 7/8/2008 17:11:20

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1/1/2009 00:19:33
re: Help-frozen zune!!!!
 Melissamusic wrote:
Please forgive my ignorance, were is it getting an illogical time/date stamp?
 KarboMusic wrote:
 Melissamusic wrote:
 KarboMusic wrote:
 Melissamusic wrote:
I agree. Why would the Zune Player care what time or what day it is without any way to check the correct time? I would understand that the device could fail if there were a conflict in the times if connected to a computer but for it to fail on its own sounds kind of fishy. I think M$ is just buying themselves some time to come up with a fix.
Believe it or not... There was a time when a device could contain an internal clock all by itself... Thats not fishy...
So it has an internal clock, so if that clock is wrong then it would just show the wrong time. not crash a system.
Not really, if a single line of code attempts an operation (dealing with dates/timestamps) and gets back a time/date that isn't "logical" there is going to be an unexpected result. (IE: Freeze)


WAIT! you mean to say he's trying to be....dare I say it...LOGICAL!?
OH CRAP! THE END IS NEAR!!! THE COMPUTERS ARE TAKING OVER!!!
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Join Date: 12/31/2008 22:57:45

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1/1/2009 00:22:01
re: Help-frozen zune!!!!
 mike01bandit wrote:
 lordcanti86 wrote:
 mike01bandit wrote:

http://www.zune.net/en-us/support/zune30.htm  the fix has arrived!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hell yeah!!!!

Welcome to a few hours ago.

my bad gave up and went to play the wii with my boy

 

Ah, don't worry about it. Just be proud that you actually found the solutions page. A lot of people still don't know about it yet, apparently.
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Join Date: 10/31/2008 03:29:29

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1/1/2009 00:22:32
re: Help-frozen zune!!!!
Some of you guys are so FUNNY! Its like that Digital Underground song......ALL AROUND THE WORLD THE SAME SONG.
Chill. It's only one day. No big deal. I agree with you djcarlozzi1, Zune is a much better media player than the ipod. I won an ipod
and gave it away. I love my Zune, I'm so attached to it and, I don't go anywhere without it.
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Join Date: 12/31/2008 23:58:14

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1/1/2009 00:22:37
re: Help-frozen zune!!!!
 brainiac716 wrote:
 Melissamusic wrote:
Please forgive my ignorance, were is it getting an illogical time/date stamp?
 KarboMusic wrote:
 Melissamusic wrote:
 KarboMusic wrote:
 Melissamusic wrote:
I agree. Why would the Zune Player care what time or what day it is without any way to check the correct time? I would understand that the device could fail if there were a conflict in the times if connected to a computer but for it to fail on its own sounds kind of fishy. I think M$ is just buying themselves some time to come up with a fix.
Believe it or not... There was a time when a device could contain an internal clock all by itself... Thats not fishy...
So it has an internal clock, so if that clock is wrong then it would just show the wrong time. not crash a system.
Not really, if a single line of code attempts an operation (dealing with dates/timestamps) and gets back a time/date that isn't "logical" there is going to be an unexpected result. (IE: Freeze)
internal clock like the bios on you pc....
OK, that part I understand but aren't we just talking about one clock? And it so, then where could the error occur? And why would disconnecting and reconnecting it with the power fix it? Isn't the internal clock still incorrect?
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Join Date: 12/8/2007 19:40:37

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1/1/2009 00:22:47
re: Help-frozen zune!!!!
sooooo what's wrong with admitting they have no idea what caused the problem.  I think someone in Seattle owes me for the pain and suffering that was caused by not having my Zune during a 90 minute commute on a train loaded with every snorer the MARC Train could round up!
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Join Date: 7/22/2008 01:33:15

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1/1/2009 00:23:07
re: Help-frozen zune!!!!
 lordcanti86 wrote:
 mike01bandit wrote:
 lordcanti86 wrote:
 mike01bandit wrote:

http://www.zune.net/en-us/support/zune30.htm  the fix has arrived!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hell yeah!!!!

Welcome to a few hours ago.

my bad gave up and went to play the wii with my boy

 

Ah, don't worry about it. Just be proud that you actually found the solutions page. A lot of people still don't know about it yet, apparently.
yea imagen if everyone did xD
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Join Date: 12/16/2008 02:05:04

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1/1/2009 00:23:25
re: Help-frozen zune!!!!
WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO AFTER THIS BIG - SNAFU? NOT A STINKY 10 MUSIC CREDIT, CAUSE THAT AINT CUTTIN IT!!!
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Join Date: 4/5/2008 01:22:49

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1/1/2009 00:25:28
re: Help-frozen zune!!!!
 Melissamusic wrote:
Please forgive my ignorance, were is it getting an illogical time/date stamp?
 KarboMusic wrote:
 Melissamusic wrote:
 KarboMusic wrote:
 Melissamusic wrote:
I agree. Why would the Zune Player care what time or what day it is without any way to check the correct time? I would understand that the device could fail if there were a conflict in the times if connected to a computer but for it to fail on its own sounds kind of fishy. I think M$ is just buying themselves some time to come up with a fix.
Believe it or not... There was a time when a device could contain an internal clock all by itself... Thats not fishy...
So it has an internal clock, so if that clock is wrong then it would just show the wrong time. not crash a system.
Not really, if a single line of code attempts an operation (dealing with dates/timestamps) and gets back a time/date that isn't "logical" there is going to be an unexpected result. (IE: Freeze)
I'll try once more... There could be hundreds if not thousands of functions in the zune code and drivers that reference times and dates. It may be last modified timestamps on files, driver version times/dates, DRM, security, the list goes on and on. It only takes a single "operation" where a conversion, comparison etc. says "take the current time date and compare it to ____". When the code does this and there is suddenly a date that it doesn't expect to be possible, you have an error. Yes its simple to add code to prevent the freeze (could have been missed) but the scenario is completely plausible, more than plausible, its now a reality.
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Join Date: 4/27/2008 14:43:33

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1/1/2009 00:25:51
re: Help-frozen zune!!!!
I just sent an email to my local fox station.

Zune 30 White

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Join Date: 11/30/2007 17:58:41

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1/1/2009 00:28:52
re: Help-frozen zune!!!!
Well, I'm glad the problem has been identified and that we'll be able to use our devices tomorrow (after noon GMT :) but is there any word on whether this will happen again next leap-second year? (2012?)

I realize chances are really slim that any of our Z30s will still be working but it'd be nice to know that it won't happen again.
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Join Date: 1/1/2009 00:27:51

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1/1/2009 00:29:13
re: Help-frozen zune!!!!
Hey I am just glad I stumbled across this..mine locked up early today and I have been researching to buy a new one. Hopefully they will resolve problem.
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