re: Can we have the 5 star rating system back, please?

The current system is stupid. Why would I have songs I didn't like? And if I do like it, I don't need to remind myself that I though it was good.

Good job on 2.5, but that is the last thing that bugs me about the software.

 MasonW wrote:

The current system is stupid. Why would I have songs I didn't like? And if I do like it, I don't need to remind myself that I though it was good.

Good job on 2.5, but that is the last thing that bugs me about the software.

 

I wish there was a half a heart with the others so I got 3 diferent ratings. But i agree with the hearts in some things.

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You nailed the exact reason I came to this site - I spent hours upon hours managing the 5-star system in WMP, and each star means something... 5 star actually is reserved only for songs that I jam to when running or at the gym... 4 and 3 star are the general "like enough to keep in a playlist for every-day listening". 2 star songs stay in the library but don't play in playlists..... anyway, tons of time invested, would like 1 Microsoft product to behave like a similar Microsoft product. Please add in the feature, just like WMP11, to "maintain global star rating" and use all 5 stars. That will make the new "smart playlists" MUCH smarter!

I've been begging for this since I registered here.... November 13, 2007.

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Who came up with the idea to have only 2 ratings? It was a pretty stupid idea.

i agree, bring back star ratings

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I am gonna go against the pack here and say i love the heart system, and just because you personally don't like it doesn't make it "stupid". As many arguements you have to be against the heart system I have that many reasons to say i love it.

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This is one of those suggestions that I am painfully personally aware of - the SW team knows about the desire for a more granular rating system, but please keep asking.  This is one of those things that I think the more people ask, the more I can discuss different designs with the PMs.

 

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 holydev wrote:

This is one of those suggestions that I am painfully personally aware of - the SW team knows about the desire for a more granular rating system, but please keep asking.  This is one of those things that I think the more people ask, the more I can discuss different designs with the PMs.

 

Gina, what more designs do you need. We just want a more flexible rating system. It has been perfected years ago. FIVE STARS. Of if you guys want to be unique, how about FIVE HEARTS? We honestly don't care if it's five elephants, we just want five different rating options.

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 Richardgm wrote:

 holydev wrote:

This is one of those suggestions that I am painfully personally aware of - the SW team knows about the desire for a more granular rating system, but please keep asking.  This is one of those things that I think the more people ask, the more I can discuss different designs with the PMs.

 

Gina, what more designs do you need. We just want a more flexible rating system. It has been perfected years ago. FIVE STARS. Of if you guys want to be unique, how about FIVE HEARTS? We honestly don't care if it's five elephants, we just want five different rating options.

I suggest the 5 Zune Team member rating system. I'm not going to hurt any feelings about who would be the 1 and who would be the 5.

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I'll be the dissenting voice here, I love the heart system and find the 5-star overly cumbersome.

My problems with the 5-star ratings are:

• Ambiguous Meaning.  What does 1 star mean?  Some people's scale goes "1-Hate, 2-Dislike, 3-Whatever, 4-Like, 5-Love", while others use "1-Meh, 2-Interesting, 3-Like A Lot, 4-Love It, 5-OMG Best Song Ever".  Those are just the two most popular, I've seen even weirder systems.  This is fine for a soloist but when sharing music with my wife or letting friends browse my lists I was always having to explain what 1 star meant vs. 5 or my wife would rate a song with 1 star and I'd ask her why she hated it but she had meant "I like it a bit".  Heart vs. Broken Heart is pretty obvious to everyone what is meant.a
• Preferences Change.  When I first buy an album I often really love a certain track, giving it 5 stars yet after a few listenings it becomes a 4 or 3 star.  Same issue the other way, the last Red Hot Chili Pepper's album I picked up didn't grab me at first so most things were 3 stars but after a few more listenings a lot of songs went 4 or 5.  With a heart/broken-heart songs rarely jump from one state to another and I do less "rating maintenance".
• No Return On Investment.  I had thousands of songs all rated from 1 to 5, but I did nothing with the information.  At the most I would create an auto-playlist with all 5-star tracks yet after a week of listening I grew sick of some tracks and wanted some 4 star as well then turned into wanting everything 3+,  which is exactly what a heart is, something that stands out from the rest.
• Cluttered.  Put a list of a 100 tracks rated 1 thru 5 next to the same list rated heart/broken heart you'll be able to pick out the stand-out tracks much quicker in the heart list.

So while my inner nerd loves having 5 stars to microrate things the information wasn't useful.  When I did use it it was in such a vague way, like a playlist with all 3+ stars, than I may as well have only had a single rating, thumbs up.

It's very similar to how I use movie reviews, it's not like I only see 4+ star movies.  I just want to know if it sucked (broken heart),was OK, (no rating) or was good enough to see (heart).  This is also very similar to when you read album reviews.  I have rarely read an album review where they said, "Well, the first and last track was 5 stars but the middle ones were more like 3 star tracks."  Usually a review is more like, "Well, the first and last tracks are really good but the middle three were blase".